Hello folks, i've been a member here for a few years and dabbled with many difference substances but i've never found real lsd till now. Tried a few research chemicals passed off as L and have done mushrooms probably 5 times in my life. Now im planning my first trip for this weekend but the setting is a little odd so im looking for some advice from anyone with any experience. Hopefully Mr.Writer can shed some light on this as i plan to drop in his city. So i will be dropping this weekend hopefully at Nuit Blanche in Toronto which is basically a huge one night art festival/exhibition. I will be with two of my very good friends. Now the reason why this is a problematic setting is this festival is packed with people (think busy time square in new york but with art everywhere and less crazy). So the problem is should one drop if they are going to be surrounded by crowds of people at most times? I know it sounds a little crazy but im tempted because its my only chance to drop for awhile. Id only be doing 1 hit. I was thinking of taking half and then the other half 2 hours later so its not anything too much to handle. What are your opinions guys? Any strategies for a successful trip or things to do if its gets a little crazy? I was planning on bringing a bit of alcohol to calm my nerves but im not sure if that will help still need to research how the 2 interact. But anyways any help is greatly appreciated and if your going to say "dont do it its stupid" please give a reason why. Peace&Love all
Sounds like you have a decent history of psychedelic experiences, really only you can gauge how you may react to that sort of setting. Were there instances of anxiety in your past experiences? I recently tripped at something very similar this past weekend in our city; it's a 2 week long citywide art exhibit, huge crowds etc. Personally I find lsd to be quite clear headed at low to medium doses; I've never had a problem around crowds as opposed to mushrooms for example, which for me can produce a bit of anxiety and discomfort in such settings. However, as I'm sure you know, they affect people differently, some could never fathom the idea of tripping in public. It's a tough call, could be a great time, but on the other hand, if it's taken you this long to find quality lsd and your supply is limited, maybe you would take more out of an experience by waiting for the opportunity of a more "personal" setting. Whatever you do decide to do though, I fully recommend taking at least one whole hit, better, two (if you're positive you have lsd that is), most street lsd tabs are dosed a bit on the weak side, and even if they are strong, all the more enjoyable. Enjoy :2thumbsup:
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v23n1/v23n1_p6-9.pdf and, don't stagger doses with LSD, take your whole dose at once. tolerance ramps up almost immediately after ingestion which means that bumping later will have no effect. trust us when it's said, there is no possible way to overdose on LSD. just be sure its not something else, that's all. happy trails, there's nothing like your first time! :love:
Sounds like a great place to trip to me. Then again I'm another one of those people who doesn't get much anxiety in huge crowds. I'd say go for it unless you have some serious aversion to crowds. An art festival seems like a friendly enough place.
I think Toronto, and basically all big cities, are fairly hellish to begin with, and being on a psychedelic surrounded by a mass of smelly, loud, drunk, teenagers and would make me want to curl up into a ball and cry. I've done LSD outdoors in toronto once before, but went straight to a beautiful forest with a ravine flowing through it. So just pointing out that it's all about what you want. You might be surprised at how bad an awesome sounding venue like "nighttime outdoor free art exhibit" might be. Of course your dose is hugely important. If you are on a light dose you will likely have a pretty great time. If you are used to being pretty fucked up, unhinged, and emotionally exposed, while physically vulnerable in a big city and surrounded by teeming masses, then go for it. personally it would be my hell on earth. i can smell the big egos, the cliques, the juvenile sexual tension, and the condescending artists already. what ho? is that the sound of a flock of know-it-all undergrads who've come to chug Jack Daniel's and piss mere feet away from your spot you've chosen to sit down at? Sponsored by ScotiaBank (c) :love: Wondrous :sifone:
If you are going through with the plan to trip in public for your first time I sincerely hope one or more of your companions will be sober.
Tru dat :rofl: Unless one considers it a challenge, but thats for more uhh...advanced explorers ...otherwise yeah, natures where it's at. Any reminders of civilization are generally a detraction.
Also keep in mind these exhibits are spread out over a large physical area in Toronto, you'd have to do quite a bit of walking I imagine. There will also be TONS of cops and undercovers around. I think advanced explorers know their mind and their substance. It's the ones new to psychedelics or who think its about proving something that take these powerful entheogens in innapropriate settings (sometimes ending up interacting negatively with law enforcement or EMS). I see taking a psychedelic by yourself in solitude as a much more meaningful challenge than seeing whether or not you can have the mental constitution to navigate a city while on substance x at dose y. the latter to me seems juvenile, essentially it turns the experience around from being about the psychedelic to being about the ego and its abilities to put on a false appearance while surrounded by a multitude of other falsities. we all come from very different places with psychedelic use however.
I find great value in both the solo trip and the venturing out into humanity trips. BUT, as you pointed out, the public tripping without incident comes after many, many, many experiences with psychedelics and learning to hold one's shit together. Watching people going about mundane daily bullshit always brings me back to center as well as a solo trip, albeit from different avenues. I've said it elsewhere here, I love "the marketplace" when tripping. All the reasons you cited above as why you don't enjoy public psychedelic excursions are the very reasons I love them. Seeing normal folks doing normal shit, but "seeing" beneath the layers and sensing others raw humanity as they go about their lives in the best manner they can muster and considering and placing myself into their situations is always most illuminating. I see all the facades and recognize them for what they are and empathize with the soul behind the facade. We all wear masks, whether we admit it or not. So in my experience, a person can get to a point in experience with psychedelics that affords them the ability to transcend the setting and make of the experience what they desire regardless.... dose dependent of course, I don't think I would fair all that well on 550ugs of LSD at a venue such as mentioned in the OP, I could handle it and not end up in jail, it just might not be as much of a good time.
i'm surprised there's not more negative comments on this scenario. ok, first time trip in a huge city at a huge event. just to be clear, this is the venue in question... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFyoR-4ULw not very chill so, let us know how it goes, seriously. you have a very polite way with words, Writer :love:
First time LSD trip, but he has experience with psychedelics. Edit: Just now watching the video. I would definitely trip, but again, that's me. I've been dealing with Mardi Gras every year for my whole life though so huge crowds in city streets feels natural to me. Tripping during Mardi Gras, now THAT is when you see some weird and depraved shit.
thats a very bad setting for lsd! dont do it! all those people! all those phony phake lizard monkeys! all around nowhere to hide. no place to rest.. not a good lsd setting. maybe mescaline or mdma but not lsd. You tripped on mushrooms op? would you trip on mush in a setting like that? Same rules apply to lsd. If you really wanna do it I suggest you drop the acid a home and try to go there already high!! so you'll see all the chaos and hate before its too late and change your mind... Alcohol is a bad idea. It will not work and will only make you dehydrated... alcohol and psychedelics are a bad combo. Since when does alcohol make people calm?? if you will do this I suggest you load up on xanax and abort the trip if something bad happens. Im sorry I do not want to send bad vibes your way or influence your mind towards a bad trip but this is like the worst place to trip... Don't you have a bedroom where you could quietly drop it and meditate? Play your own music, get naked, eat, have sex, dance, sing, laugh, cry.. You need a place where you can be free because lsd will set you free... doing it at an event with police activity is very very bad! You want to see policeman when trippin?? Would you like to die in a crowded place like that while strangers are staring at you taking pictures? Same rules apply to lsd because lsd will make your ego die and that can feel like real death.. There is no blissful illumination to be found in places like that.. only in peace will you achieve the zen state of mind !!
Fucking bingo dude. :2thumbsup: How about being confronted by a cop while trippin' ass, looking them right in the eye and in complete genuine-ness, end up in a conversation about humanity and compassion. I gave a cop a fucking contact buzz! :beatnik: Thats powerful shit man. Our minds are capable of some seriously cool shit if we can just drop the crap and pay attention. I still would recommend nature over civilization anyday
Thanks for all the advice everyone. For those wondering I didnt trip cid it was way too hectic of a night which i thought it might be. Couple friends did trip and had a wonderful time but i didnt know the city well so bad setting for me. Ended up doing mdma which was much more appropriate. Will save the L for nature. Peace&Love all
very prudent, ya try the L in a more chill setting. you'll dig it. glad you and your mates had a good time.
MDMA was a great choice! Save the more cognitive changing substances like LSD for camping and stuff like that.