hello im a mum to a fantastic 14yr old daughter, but she can see and speak to others that have past over, im really stuck on how to help her understand on what is going on in her life is there anyone outthere who can offer me advice??????????
i don't know really- its quite hard for someone to understand their own mind. You need to do some research on what delusion is and find a rational explanation for her 'ability'. its very important you don't humor her or encourage her in any way otherwise she might think her belief is normal and be ridiculed by peers. you can tell her that her beliefs are false but they won't change because they are emotional. She will "know" that she is right. however, if you tell her she is wrong enough times then it will place doubt in her head. Next time she is very unhappy she might be able to work her beliefs out. i'm not an expert, i've just had first hand experience with delusion- before, during and after. if she starts not trying at school (this is what i did) because she thinks her "powers" mean that she doesn't need to, then you might need to seek better help than a forum.
I don't really know either, but I do know that the term "rational explanation" is often used by people to deride others' beliefs when their own reasoning is just as unsound. And I don't believe any of us knows enough about the universe to be supreme judges of what a "rational explanation" might be. Yes, it's possible that your daughter is delusional. It's also possible--forgive me for saying this, Hala, since I know you'll disagree, however it must be said--it's also POSSIBLE that your daughter is NOT delusional. Telling her she is wrong repeatedly, as Hala suggests, is both bad logic and bad psychology, and would be extremely hurtful to your daughter. Whatever happens, she needs your loving support. Having dealt with Hala's knee-jerk one-size-fits-all response to anyone who believes anything psychic, I think the best thing to do, rather than jump to conclusions based on our own personal biases, is to get some more info. Mumtoapsychic, you don't really tell us much about your daughter. How do you know she talks to people who have passed over? You seem to be looking for help--is your daughter troubled by her experiences, or are you just trying to get information for her? When you say "help her understand what's going on in her life," what IS going on in her life? If she's happy, productive, and well-adjusted, she probably doesn't need much help, if any. If she's troubled, that's another matter. What's going on?
wow ur really 54 zengizmo!? i'll have to not call you dude or man... in a way sir- yes it is possible, if you consider anything possible (otherwise called an open mind). its possible because it can't be proven false, however no delusion can be proven false. Mumtoapsychic- there's no way anyone can prove either of the following explanations: 1. that your daughter is merely thinking that she can talk to the dead, when she is actually listening to her own thoughts inside her head, which she assumes are those of dead people. 2. she does the "listening" technique and then tries to analyze the emtpy emotion inside her when focusing. This is more dangerous because if she makes a wrong prediction then she can say she analysed the emotion wrong, rather than the emotion has no connection to the dead. this would mean she considered she could speak to the dead before tried to- i think this is a lot more likely. the giveaway is that dead people can't talk or even think. does this sound ridiculous? am i being narrow minded? is there life after death? am i actually immortal without knowing it? will i consider a million years to be a tiny blip in time on my billionth birthday. Of course, the birthday i most look forward to is the big G. When the years since my mortal birth equal 1 X 10 ^ 100. thats a number 50% bigger than the number of atoms in the universe. sure will be one hell of a party.
Well Hala, I think I prefer "dude" to "sir." LOL Unfortunately I think Mumtoapsychic has given up on getting any useful feedback from this forum. The reason this is unfortunate is that I think she COULD have received some useful feedback that didn't include being told that what she believes is just not true--see what I'm saying? I don't necessarily believe every claim I see about psychic experience. However I've seen enough to know that my personal experience is not the universal one--other folks may have experienced things I haven't. And when somebody genuinely wants or needs help, my inclination is to listen and see if I can find the root issues and help them deal with those, whether I believe everything they do or not. Telling somebody that what they believe is wrong is NOT helpful, in most cases. At the very least, it tends to cause polarization--that is, when we're faced with an extreme point of view, it tends to push our own point of view farther in the opposite direction. This is obviously counterproductive to an open discussion. I see you have a new thread of your own. We can continue discussions over there.
yeah zen- i do see what you're saying. you're very right- i missed the point completely. i'm young and i make mistakes that you wouldn't make every single day. And yes, i do think fear plays a very big part in my extreme rationality. i try not to leave any door open that might let a delusion in. Saying that i figured one out today, it should mean i procrastinate less now. I haven't known you for very long zengizmo, but if i had to sum you up in one word- i'd choose 'inspirational'. I respect the way you write- i think you have a great balance between showing that you have understood who you are talking to, and getting your point across. i've read all your replies to me and i have learnt from each one of them. I'll be off now. I'll read any reply you make to this comment, but i won't answer it. I know that although i enjoy using the internet in this way, there are even better uses of my time. peace dude! its been good!
I'm young too, Hala. LOL I know people who are so old, you wouldn't believe me if I told you. But they allow me to feel like I'm worthwhile once every so often, even as young as I am. I'm writing a book that will put on public display a whole lot of mistakes I made when I was more than twice as old as you. It's a very hard book to write, for some strange reason... Thank you for the kind words, dude. I'm sorry you're leaving, but I know you're at the threshold of a great life. Take care.
