Hegel's Theory...your thoughts.

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by SunFree, May 25, 2004.

  1. SunFree

    SunFree Member

    A thing or thought could not be separated from its opposite. For example, the slave cannot exist without the master, and vice versa. Then, eventually, unity would be achieved by equalising all opposites.

    Intriguing.

    Now discuss!

    :D
     
  2. sitareric

    sitareric Banned

    yes i agree, we live in a dualistic plane, and i think the harmonization, lies in the mind...and isnt that an ancient universal theory, yin-yang
     
  3. totally man. It's all about perception.
     
  4. Fractual_

    Fractual_ cosmos factory

    there couldnt be day without night, could there?
     
  5. TheGnome

    TheGnome Member

    I'd tend to agree. The problem is equalizing things in the world is not as easy as it appears.
     
  6. sitareric

    sitareric Banned

    There cant be easy without hard
     
  7. NatureFreak412

    NatureFreak412 Art of Balance

    The opposite of drought is rain, one could exist without the other.
     
  8. TheGnome

    TheGnome Member

    I'd think the opposite of drought is monsoon, but I see what you're implying. However, I don't think such a comparison is the same as the topic at hand.
     
  9. grim_rebel

    grim_rebel Member

    I think Hegel stated the obvious. The universe is made of language, and each word has an antonym. I think if one viewed the universe without the glasses of language, they would see no opposites, but rather - unity. Cheers.
     
  10. TheGnome

    TheGnome Member

    Although I think language creates a barrier in some ways I don't think that we'd encounter total unity. There are a few other things that create more of a barrier than language.
     
  11. Fractual_

    Fractual_ cosmos factory

    everything does sort of speak a language of its own.




    but human language does create a lot of barriers, i agree. words are merely a way to convey meaning. the word apple is not the apple itself, it is like a metaphor, just representing it.

    the map is not the territory, can ya dig it?
     
  12. grim_rebel

    grim_rebel Member

    Indeed... but one must go further and question the cartogropher him/herself. Be the artist of your life...
     
  13. can you have love without hate?

    it doesnt appear be so.

    look at the world now. how much is love and how much is hate? the more the world gets full of hate the more people like us need to love. the more we love the more they hate.

    hmmm
     
  14. sitareric

    sitareric Banned

    Hate=Fear

    And i think language is a beautiful thing, its about the feeling you get from the words, the barrier is created by our own perceptions
     
  15. i dont believe hate is fear. i think it comes from other places.


    but im not going to go into it right now becuase i can hardly speak let alone foigure out a sensible order of words for this
     
  16. Fractual_

    Fractual_ cosmos factory

    i think a lot of hate is derived from fear. so are a lot of other negative things, such as jealousy(fear of someone else having more), greed(fear of not having enough).... they can usually be summed up into fear.
     
  17. Agreed. Hate is not possible without fear, take for example fear of heights would equal hating climbing trees, climbing a rock wall or doing a high ropes course.
     
  18. sitareric

    sitareric Banned

    to me hate and all those other things, are fear of self harmonization, fear of what oneself could be, if they let their intuition take hold
     
  19. kier

    kier I R Baboon

    it sort of works, but your examples aren't what i consider fits this theory

    take dryness....how do we know something is dry? because it has no moisture...

    take dampness...how do we know something is damp? because it has moisture...

    if there was no dampness, we would know no different from dryness

    the thing with this theory is, is that it relies on things being pure. apart from theory, i would hazard a guess that virtualy nothing is pure, so bang goes the theory...works in principle though
     

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