I'm sure most are familiar with it, but for those that aren't. http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm It's important to recognize when things are real issues, or when their merely put there to make you feel a certain way. Question wheather an issue or story is pushing you to a foregone conclusion.
I read all of this. But my mind is spinning. I have never heard of this. And in all honesty, I cannot figure out what this whole thing is about. Would someone be kind enough to explain this to me so that an idiot can grasp the concept? Thank you very much.
The belief system of Hegelian dialectics is a fraud in of itself. But it works very effectively. It's much easier just to look at what a basic dialectic is rather than get into the intricacies of it. Example- One person presents a belief, you contemplate that belief, thinking it could be true. A person presents a belief that is the opposite of it. You argue over which one you think is right. When you do this you get caught in the trap of "it's either this way or that way" never realizing it could be something different. You argue over whether it's black or white, never stepping back and analysing the fact that it's actually blue. It's like in the political structure when your presented only two choices, republican or democrat, left or right. Most people pick a side, rather than saying "Maybe we should have something completely different" or "Maybe we should have a totally different political structure." most people don't do this, especially the idea of designing a type of modality completely different. They leave it up to the experts rather than taking control of their own destiny. It doesn't have to be something which splits people down the middle. It can be something which seems logical opposed by something absurd. Example, 2+2=4. Now pretend your a person that has no idea about math. Someone comes along and says 2+2=5, you say to yourself "Hmm, I don't know, it might be true, I guess it could be." Your shakey on whether you believe it or not. But someone comes along and says "2+2=Ten bazillion trillion" you say "Why that's absolutely crazy, obviously it's 5" the crazy person that says it equals a bazillion was intentionally put their to strengthen and solidify your believe in the fact that two plus two equals five. That way you will never step back and figure out the equation for yourself, and that both answers are wrong. We see this principle applied in counter intelligence were someone can be attacked by the establishment, so people say "He/she must be fighting the establishment and on our side because the establishment is attacking he/she", never actually analysing what the person could potentially be about. If the establishment wanted to add credibility to their propaganda mouthpiece, all they have to do is attack them, that way that person appears to be against them.
I think you explain it much better than the website you linked. i think the majority of people are stuck in this way of thinking. Economic systems are a good example. Most of the world is either communist (fail), socialism (arguable) and capitalism (america is a good example of a giant fail on that front). Hasn't it occured to anyone to try something new?
well I personally like the idea of local economies. Communism, socialism, and capitalism can all work on a small scale. But thats not exactly a completely new idea, its just the scaling down of old ideas. I don't know. I guess it hasn't occurred to me either welcome back odon i havent seen you on here in a while
I imagine they all work in unison with each other due to globalisation. Obviously with catastrophic consequences from time to time. Reasons: Ill/Lack of internet connection/Holiday/Bored of internet. Thanks.
this is true, but I think the bigger something gets the more appearant its flaws become. Corporate america is a good example of this. Capitalism on a small scale is fantastic but when you get to the point where corporations own everything and its common knowledge that many CEOs are corrupt as fuck...well, something has to change. lol corrupt as fuck...i'm so damn eloquent.
In tribal cultures, when a sociopathic person tries to go for a powergrab they are recognized and subdued/killed. This type of corruption happens in smaller societies but it's easier to control
This conversation is funny because, from what I recall, Hegel regarded the large nation-state as the final and best system of organizing people.
no, they can't work, actually. There's always some who are too lazy/inept/arrogant to work as much, so they try to run things, and the commune always collapses. 2-3 wind up doing all the work, so they eventually say "fuck this" and leave.
