..He had too much

Here is a tale (made as brief as possible) of why you should be careful about how much acid you take in a certain setting/environment. It happened a few months ago now, but this was basically a lesson to us all - always have some vitamin C handy and generally try not to be irresponsible with your dosage lol.

We went out to a good psytrance night with the obvious intent of taking acid there. It was a good venue with trippy decorations etc, and as im sure people will agree loud psytrance music (especially at raves) is a perfect stimulus for the tripping mind. This was the cause for a lot of craziness that night.

Anyway, we got to taking our acid. We each had a drop (regular 100 mic hit) and then the rest of it was put into 2 bottles of water. There were 4 drops in one bottle and 3 in the other and basically these were supposed to be consumed evenly between 4 people. This didn't happen. We came up from the first one and were all drinking the water, but what happened was, my boyfriend Tom ended up drinking loads of it.. (pretty quickly). It might seem dumb but none of us really noticed cos of being happily fucked ourselves, but Tom ended up drinking nearly all of the first bottle and a good bit of the second as well.

It's hard recalling events chronologically from when you've been tripping, but at some point after drinking all that acid his brain went, he started to shout uncontrollably and talk to himself, acting mental waving his hands in the air, constantly walking in circles shouting etc. We couldn't get through to him. He began to vomit and piss himself at one point cos he was becoming so fucked. The atmosphere was fucking with his head putting him into some crazy loop, he was just in his own world, completely non-responsive. A lot of people were clearly thinking wtf but some were tripping too or could see he was on acid. We were there just trying to calm him down, he was shouting a lot and flailing around, this went on until he started ripping big psychedelic hangings down off the walls and running around becoming very hostile. At one point he pissed in his hand and was shouting 'its warm!' continuing to go crazy, laughing, shouting, ripping decorations down, and in the end some of our more 'sobre' mates (who had been taking amphetamines rather than acid) had to help forcibly carrying him out of the club cos were making such a scene.

We got a taxi back asap and he proceeded to talk to himself and shout about random shit for several hours, often getting loud and angry, at one point cowering and repeatedly shouting 'death-death-death death!' he was chucking stuff all around the room (at one point smashed a glass against the wall) and just shouting the whole time being completely out of character. It was hard for us to deal with cos we were tripping too, we couldn't calm him down at all cos he was stuck on a loop. We were hunting for the vitamin C tablets which were lost somewhere and resorted to force feeding him oranges which we luckily had - this seemed to work and he calmed down and fell asleep after a while. We spent the rest of the time trying to decipher what the fuck had just happened, concluding he'd had a lot more acid than we had, no one had noticed where it all went. I was really worried when I realised how much he'd had cos it was obviously a lot. Tom woke up about 4 hours later, he was back and actually able to correspond with us again and talk about what happened. He didn't remember much of it (other than his visuals and stuff, which were apparently great) and he was shocked/embarassed to learn about his bizarre behaviour (the pissing etc). It took a while to come back from but he recovered in the end, and we all gained some valuable insight into the dementia that can be caused by acid (and how damn foolish it is to be irresponsible about your dosage...... lol). This post is long enough now, but this is a short version of the extent of the madness that actually occurred that night. It just shows - be careful!

 

That sounds horrible. This is why I always remember to put the Vitamin C in an easy to find place when I am tripping, that and a few benzos just in case someone is really loosing it.

Hope he is recovering well

 

I've seen it happen a few times. In certain cases, it's been deserved and in others it's just an accident and a shame. There was this one kid who wanted to eat some mushrooms, and he was all "I can handle any drug, bla bla bla Im the man bla bla bla" he was 16 at the time. So he ate a nice handful, probably just under a quarter. Anyway he left all the group of kids tripping, went outside during winter completley naked, proceeded to take his family car and crash into a tree. Needless to say the police probably had quite a good laugh when they found him! He wasnt hurt, just completley destroyed by his own ego and negative personality.
Namaste

 

alicethecoffeeaddict that was a CRAZY story--how did that affect your trip? did you 'sober up' to deal or did it make you trip harder? also is your BF still willing to do acid or did this scare him off? wow!

(by the way relayer-naked kid crashing into a tree-sad but i have to admit i chuckled once i realized he wasn't hurt)

 

oops--duplicate post

 

A similar thing happened to myself when I took four hits of some STRONG acid at a concert back in November. I ended up standing in the aisle screaming and giving a speech to the shocked audience around me. The topics ranged from very witty and complicated humour about life and even jokes mocking myself for being an idiot in front of all these people to yelling about orange tits and other topics that I would rather not say...


I remember the moment when I finally went off the deep end. I had just been dancing with my friend for about an hour or so when all of a sudden I looked around at everything around me. I don't remember what the world looked like, but I remember feeling an intense urge to just yell at everyone what I was thinking and break everything accepted. All the while I was supposedly running all over the place, ocassionally stopping to duck and crouch from non-existant massive objects in the air. Eventually my friend becca restrained me and sat me down in a chair, where I continued to yell on and off until the show was over.

There's much much more to this story but I'll spare you the odd details.

 

shit man that sucks. was it the first time you done acid or anything like that?
have you done acid again?

im trying to get to the bottom of why this happens? wether its just innexperience, or somthing else, psychotic break, or somthing else again.

 

perhaps regression

 

I've seen that happen too - and not at all just with people who've taken too much! Some people just shouldn't trip. Since hallucinogens tend to heighten whatever mood you're already in, people whose heads aren't in the right place can end up with their heads in a pretty awful place.

Acid's not for everyone, I guess.

 

i dont think i could take acid in a crowded enviornment. maybe shrooms, but for me, acid is more personal. i woouuld feel like i was abusing it if i used it in a public area. maybe a low dose. like 2 hits or something. but never a mind bending introspective journey type dose

 

i think so too. acid seems more like a little group or personal thing, and shrooms seem more like fun. i'm going to this festival soon, and gonna take some acid and shrooms, but i think i might freak out with all the people on acid. i went last year and took an 8th of blue meanies. the guy said they were the best there and he wasn't bragging. so i took that shit and MAN did i feel/see it. i found a path straight through the crowd up to the stage and watched heaven unfold above me. i almost had an orgasm it was so damn beautifull, which tripped me out and i turned and plowed through the crowd and somehow found my way back to the tent as everything was melting, where i stayed the remainder of the trip, listening to wookiefoot play pink floyd.

 

If you were talking to me, it was the third time I had done acid but the first time in about three months. I've dropped acid three times since then and never lost control like that. While it was embarrassing, my friend Becca was the only person who was there for the whole affair, which is ok because she is a very good friend of mine.

I learned a lot that night and it changed me a lot. The experience made me much closer to my friend because without her help I probably would have eventually been arrested for causing a scene.

O and I had the best hallucinations ever that night haha

 

Well first off, Vitamine C has absolutely no effects, positive or negative, on an LSD experience. You're confusing acid with ecstasy.

And yes, acid is not a toy and immature users should becareful with doses and set and setting. We all learn the hard way in the regard, I did as well. It sucks coming down and realizing the shit you've done when you've had a bad trip and took to much. "You can wath yourself behaving in this way, but have no ability to control it" to quote Hunter S Thompson. It sucks. He'll know better next time.

 

I really don't like taking acid in crowds either. Any hallucinogen, really. I understand people who like to do it as a more social thing, and I'm not judging anyone - it's just that for me, personally, I have more fun with a small group of people, in the woods.

Yay woods! God, it always looks like magical elf land when I'm tripping. And the weirdest stuff pops up!

Now I want acid.

 

i have to say after taking lsd in quiter settings, after getting your experience up, i must say i strive to be in busy places on lsd. i want to go into petrol stations or into shopping malls, infact i feel more comfortable their. me n some friends did 3 hits each at surfers paradise on the gold coast australia. and it was fucking awsum. my 2 friends freaked and couldnt handle it, but me and one other let them stay on the beach while we went into the clubs. i ended up getting drunk on lsd, and it was awsum. i felt so free. its strange drinking lsd on alchole cause you drink it soo fast like its nothing.

 

Well, we're not necessarily 'immature users', ive had about 8 trips (Tom a few more than that) which is little compared to some but we are pretty understanding of this drug by now. It wasn't down to immaturity with estimating dosage, the situation just turned out how it did. Of course he shouldn't have drank so much, normally he would have considered this, but when you're already tripping you don't look at your actions from a sober perspective or consider what events are unfolding (especially in an atmosphere that is extremely dynamic to the brain on acid, i.e., in a room full of psytrance, bright lights, patterns and colours!).

And I think you're mistaken about the vitamin C, the oranges were the only thing that calmed him down in the end, and I know lots of people who know (for a fact learned from experience) the virtuous effects of vitamin C when someone is going off on bad trip or loop. I don't understand how I'm confusing acid with ecstacy? I'm well aware of the vast differences between these drugs and honestly, I've never used vitamin C in any experiences with amphetamines for whatever reason whereas with acid I have. So I'm not sure where you get this reasoning?

And to mara-aum, he turned out fine and still wants to take it again, just not for a good several months lol. It was pretty antagonising trying to calm him down whilst tripping, but it was fine when he chilled out, just watched stuff, smoked spliffs and relaxed etc. It didn't leave any intensity between the rest of us but rather a calmed atmosphere after all the commotion.

 

Hey dude, i didnt mean that in a derogetory way. But if he took that much, he used poor judgment. I just scimmed your post but since the title was "he took too much" i'm assuming that is the theme here. And your wrong about the whole vitamin C gag. It has no effect on an LSD experience. I know this from research. Look it up if you dont believe me. Any effect it had on his trip was psychosematic. MDMA isnt an amphetamine. If you dont know about vitamin C to prevent oxidative stress than google that shit...its important to know. Vitamin C does nothing to enhance or chill out a shroom or acid trip, its well known folklore. Im not trying to be a dick but it's science. And i know about set and setting trust me...i just meant he was immature in his usage in that he took too much. I never said that was a bad thing, but if he took too much he made and immature mistake that he wont ever make agian...ive been there and it sucks. But you're first post seemed to highlight the fact that he took too much and now your saying it was all set and setting...you're contradicting yourself.

My first bad trip occured when i had like 10-15 hard trips under my belt and it was because i took too much. Im not gonna be macho and say i wasnt being immature, because i was. I thought i was all brawn and balls and that i could handle anything so i just kept munching, and i had a horrible peak...terrifying to say the least. It was humbling, and it was then that I learned that LSD wasnt a toy. And im sorry but 7 or 8 trips isnt an experienced user with something as powerful as LSD. I didnt mean to put you down at all, i just meant that bad trips are life changing and everyone in the group that experienced it, primarily or secondarily, will think twice next time: we all learn from our mistakes.

 

Sounds funny and made up. Though the advice have proper training in dealing with someone out of control. Some of the post give instant fix to the situation though most arnt smart enough to think in advance. A benzo/ or a anti-psycotic med. Oranges dont work for everyone. And all VC does is speed the rate of the acid so it dies out faster buy working quicker in your system. Why a person would be out of control shows some behavior otherwise not seen in that person unless they are tripping probable isnt accurate. He may as well of been proforming for you as in a show all to his own, Have you ever seen his penis before? Maybe hes trying to tell someone in your group that he would like more attention, And I did see your age and assume that muture people dont do these things unless highly intoxicatd or pretend to be intoxicated only to do something in front of someone else for a spectical. And was no more high on the shit than you were!

 

^no it doesnt.

I'de like to see some scientific documents that state that action of vitamin C. Everything i have ever read and been told (through people who know what they are talking about, and not through street myth) is that VC does nothing on LSD, Mesc, or Psilocybin. So if you can prove me wrong than be my guest, but im 99.9% sure that you're mistaken.

people get high off placebo pills all the time..any action that VC had on him was psychosomatic...It's LSD, one of the most potent 'mind fuck drugs' known to man. I can't tell you how many times i legitamately thought i had entered some sort of alternate dimension that i would never return from on high doses of acid. I legit believed it...completely forgot that i had been tripping, and thought i had died and entered some sort of afterlife. I'm pretty sure if someone REALLY thinks tha VC will calm him/her down while freaking out on LSD, the thought alone will calm them down. There was a whole thread on this a while ago and like 30 out of the 32 posts all said "VC does nothing on psychedelics aside from preventing neurotoxicity of MDMA at high to moderate doses." And that was just hipforums...im not even mentioning Acid Dreams, Bluelight, and other various articles of rsearch done on the subject available via google.

 

i FUCKING LOVE tripping in the woods!!!!!!