Has killing become part of the Pentagon “Press Policy”?

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  1. catstevens

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    Has killing become part of the Pentagon “Press Policy”?
    5/29/2006 8:15:00 AM GMT Source
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    From the few credible reports, from very few news agencies around the world that are keen on presenting truth, we know that Iraq is now descending into a black hole, thanks to the decadent, bloated, demon-possessed, Neo-Con followers, who might now be sitting on their easy chairs, cheering the death of over a hundred thousand innocent people. An Iraqi reporter and a Japanese human rights activist have recently warned against the distorted image the world has about what’s happening in Iraq. They also warned against an imminent health catastrophe, with Iraqis now more vulnerable to cancer as a result to the exposure to depleted uranium shells the U.S.-led occupation forces had been using in Iraq, Uruknet wrote recently. During the Persian Gulf War, the U.S. blasted vehicles with armor-piercing shells made of depleted uranium, which helped bring the war to a swift conclusion. The U.S. was the first country to introduce such deadly weapons. The war ended, but the devastating impact remains. About 15 years have passed since the Persian Gulf War ended; but the battlefield remains a radioactive toxic wasteland. While the Pentagon refuses to speak clearly about the true effects of depleted uranium, Iraqi doctors say that using it led to significant increase in cancer and birth defects in the region. Many researchers have also suggested that depleted uranium played a major role in Gulf War Syndrome, the still-unexplained malady that has plagued hundreds of thousands of Gulf War veterans.
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    Depleted Uranium is a highly dense metal that is the byproduct of the process during which fissionable uranium used to manufacture nuclear bombs and reactor fuel is separated from natural uranium. DU remains radioactive for about 4.5 billion years. Last week, Isam Rasheed, a freelance journalist, and Fumikazu Nishitani, head of Osaka-based NGO Rescue the Iraqi Children, briefed a public gathering in Osaka on the true situation in Iraq. "It is now virtually impossible for foreign journalists to move around independently in Iraq," Nishitani said. "Most (journalists) are embedded with U.S. forces or operate from the Green Zone, a walled fortress in central Baghdad. As a result, few people in the West, or in Japan, have seen the true extent of the damage and suffering in Fallujah, while the U.S. government continues to deny responsibility for the cancer and leukemia outbreaks." "The world has seen little of the devastation wrought by U.S. troops on the city of Fallujah," Rasheed, also a photographer, said. "Entire neighborhoods were destroyed and the number of innocent civilians killed and maimed by the bombing was quite high."
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    The situation was a "major problem for Japan", Nishitani said, adding that the Japanese public, like the rest of the world, is kept in the dark about the true picture of what is going on in Iraq due to the fact that very few Japanese journalists are there, unlike Vietnam War, where many Japanese reporters were present at the battlefield and showed what was really going on, according to Nishitani."What are they doing in Iraq? The Iraqis don't know. When we heard the Japanese were coming, many Iraqis were happy because they thought this meant Japanese companies would be coming to Iraq and provide jobs and technology training," the journalist said. "That hasn't happened, and there is a sense of bitter disappointment."The two men presented photos of the U.S. offensive in the Iraqi city of Fallujah that took place in November 2004, and left thousands of Iraqis dead, and sent many others homeless. According to U.S. and Iraqi officials, between 70 and 90 percent of Fallujah's population fled the city before the offensive broke out on Nov. 8 2004. The two men also showed photos of Iraqis with cancer they had interviewed. Many experts and Iraqi doctors say that the spread of cancer, particularly leukemia, is the result of exposure to depleted uranium shells from U.S. and British occupying forces that have contaminated the ground. "Nobody has any idea how many Iraqis may have developed leukemia or fallen ill (with other diseases), because of the depleted uranium shells," Nishitani said. "It's a major health catastrophe in the making." Rasheed said.
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    In Vietnam War it was the chemical poison Agent Orange. Today in Iraq it is plain old processed uranium. The U.S. Army must appreciate uranium hugely, for it is permanent. Uranium is radioactive- It kills people and contaminates their land - forever. But how can the world know about the true extent of the devastation in Iraq, if reporters, who complain that harassment and intimidation by American soldiers in Iraq is growing, can’t do their job well. Journalists are the only people who’re able to transfer the Iraqis’ sufferings to the entire world. The International Federation of Journalists had previously accused the U.S. government of hiding behind a "culture of denial" over the deaths of journalists in Iraq, and said the U.S. had to take "responsibility for its actions." Too many journalists are dying "at the hands of the hands of US soldiers because of negligence or indifference ... And when journalists are killed, the military often seems ... unwilling to launch an adequate investigation or take steps to mitigate risk," Joel Campagna of the Committee to Protect Journalists was once quoted as saying. “U.S. military fire is the second-leading cause of death. At least nine journalists and two media support staff have died as a result of US fire in Iraq in the last 23 months." Has killing become part of the Pentagon “Press Policy”?
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  2. dudenamedrob

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    Cat, does this surprise you in the least??
     
  3. toni

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    I think journalists have a god complex.
     
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    No, I wish some people will WAKE UP, AND STOP SUPPORTING BUSH

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  5. dudenamedrob

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    I wish the majority of the US government would be brought to a war crimes tribunal.....it's coming, people are becoming more educated...........hopefully western indoctrination will collapse, and perhaps within my lifetime worldwide revolution.............just need the baby boomers to become infirm and we'd be alot better off, lol.
     
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    Amen
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  7. rainbowedskylover

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    then we should have somekinda protestcampain going on on this issue, heh? tough they won't like it if you succesfully blame them on war-crimes. fucking indoctrination, but how do you stop it?
     
  8. toni

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    How much do YOU know about this ?.

    I have to say it is thanks to people like catstevens that made me aware of this issue.

    I can't say i am as concerned as i am sure catstevens would like me to be.

    You would need to back up what you are saying, with fresh new information.

    Just useing 'deformed babies' would not do.

    Not quite a 'protest' but never the less.

    http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-107572.html

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2860759.stm

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uranium/0,7368,419839,00.html

    Although a very large body of existing scientific and medical research clearly established that such a link between Depleted Uranium ammunition and the reported illnesses was extremely unlikely, NATO Secretary General George Robertson immediately established an Ad Hoc Committee on Depleted Uranium to serve as a clearing house for information to be shared among interested nations.

    from a safety viewpoint, the presence of such small traces of Plutonium in Depleted Uranium is also irrelevant. This report and the information in it has been publicly available for some time, and has been restated by independent experts in more recent media reports.

    http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2001/p01-006e.htm
    http://www.nato.int/du/home.htm
     
  9. dudenamedrob

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    You have to understand that most of the "existing scientific and medical research" is designed to produce "friendly" results. Don't be naieve, most of what you consider as "real" in your little world is in fact a farce. Medical and scientific studies are engineered to produce the wanted results. We live in an age of ever increasing propaganda, and its getting worse everyday, what remains of independent media, science, and medicine is being circumvented by the popular opinion that you can "trust", the mainstream, when in reality they are the ones the educated NEVER trust.

    -The only way to break the cycle of indoctrination is through open education, this does not mean going to your local Uni and studying, as conventional methods of education in Western Society are designed to produce obedient, willing little citizens, haven't you noticed that in today's western education system that thinking critically for yourself is normally dismissed, people are supposed to abide by a standard set of ethics that fit into the preapproved comfort of the elite..............no rocking the boat.

    My suggestion is to read, read everything you can get your hands on, take what the media (4th branch of gov't) says with a grain of salt, and don't be afraid to formulate your own opinions. In the beginning a patriot is often looked upon with scorn and ridicule, people become angry when told that what they believe in is a lie, only with open minds, big hearts, and willingness can we overcome.
     
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    Depleted Uranium - Far Worse Than 9/11​
    Depleted Uranium Dust - Public Health Disaster For The People Of Iraq and Afghanistan​
    by Doug Westerman​
    1st June
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    Who shall we believe? do they add deadly things to the DU then? or what?
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    That's why I consider E-forums a blessing, everybody can share, can refute, give more details, explanations, this is indeed a ablessing :) and sometimes an easy way to reach the truth :) .
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    So the alternative 'scientific data' is more valid is it ?. Can i have a look at some of that please ?.

    I only added the BBC and the gaurdian because they were quite informative . You can completly ignore them if you so choose.

    I posted the UN and Nato links because they are going to be independant. Not blindingly biased like the media [can be]. I don't trust the 'mainstream' or 'independant' media. Two sides of the same coin. take or leave that information.

    You can't really fault the UN and Nato though.


    What a load of rubbish.

    Some of the greatest scientists and 'thinkers' studied in 'western educational institutions'. It is the individual that becomes special. That can not be taught.

    Well i have read as much as i can. You seem to have ignored anything that does not conform to your reality. That is a shame.

    I'm getting rather emotional *sniff*.
     
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    Fortunately your ignorance is prominently displayed in your reply, full of arrogance, bravado, and acceptance of established doctrine.

    -Unlike you, I won't pander to the delinquent ideology that perpetuates Hip Forums, your one of those caged minds that likes to attempt pinpointing flaws in ideology that does not fit into your standard, most people take the bait and you end up debating in circles which only serves to nullify the real issue at hand. So, continue on with your deluded subpar rhetoric.
     
  14. toni

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    ? I have read what Catstevens has posted. I have read that kind of thing before. I have read the 'official' reports as well. I don't agree with catstevens. Reporting one side of the debate is wrong. I 'attempted' to balance it out. sue me.


    I'm not attempting to do anything. I am responding to your post. You don't need to respond if you don't wish. Just because i am not seemingly agreeing with you. Your claiming i'm doing this and that, when i am doing neither. If you don't wish to respond to my ''deluded subpar rhetoric'' you don't need too. Simple really.

    I'm slightly disagreeing with you. With possibly a bit of rudeness. I even added a joke at the end [well i thought it was funny]. Lets not get all excited now. I'll apologise if i was rude. Thats counterproductive.
     
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    Thank you for doing so :) , but did you read post#10 and 11,
    Allah knows best
    [049:006] O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
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  17. Lodui

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    You should at least read about what DU is before you start making threads about it.

    A. THere are some health concerns, although it is difficult to diagnose or place as a reult of DU as only a few dozen have been reported. Most scientific research says there isn't a link, but there are some reports saying a link may exist.

    B. You don't know what you're talking about. The potential dangers associated with DU are corrosive toxicity concerns not radioactive concerns. No international body has raised any concerns over the radiological component of DU, because it is not very radioactive at all. The very long half life that you point out markably decreases any chance of radioactive damage, not increase it.

    I will admit there are some less spurious reports of DU toxicity to be looked into, but you should at least research topics before you just ramble on about them.
     
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    DU is also widely used in castings for sailboats. Why don't you post some deformed babys who spent too much time in a yacht?
     
  19. TokeTrip

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    If you care, stop posting it here; few, if any of use support Bush. Stand up to authority where authority has power; preaching to people who agree does no good.

    Also, quit it with the baby pictures; they serve no purpose besides pulling the emotion string, which really just makes people sad and distracts them from the point at hand.
     
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    Your post was absolutely horrible, and I'm pretty sure you could see that yourself.

    Being accepting of established doctrine isn't a bad nor good thing. Accepting or denying it without any research or proof is. Please learn to use your God(or whoever)-given brain to think about your reasons for criticizing someone.

    Pinpointing flaws in ideology that one disagrees with is what makes for a thorough and scholastic debate. Brushing over even the slightest discrepancy leads to ignorance. I should point out that despite your debate advice, you continue to make both personal attacks and fail to support your claims.

    Best Regards.
     
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