growing with incandesents

a freind of mine bought a bunch of 200 watt bulbs from kmart for 2 bucks apiece. the results are amazing, twice as good as sodium halide, the only draw back seems to be the heat, but he took care of that by pointing a fan straight up into the hood. the power is bill is more, but if you factor in the cost of those expensive light systems its more than worth it and you can start growing without a huge investments, ( the whole system cost about 50 bucks to set up)

 

never heard of a sodium halide b4...u mean metal halide or maybe High pressure sodium. 2 different lights..sounds to me as if u have nevr seen these HID setups b4. and since HID's are considered the best MJ growing lights available i doubt it is twice as good.

 

If you look up incandesants on the light spectrum thrn compare with HIDs I believe you will find that incans aren't in the proper spectrum to grow. if I'm wrong 10 lashes with a wet noodle wil be my punishment.

 

Sodium halide huh?
By what means did you determine that those bulbs are "twice as good" as a High Pressure Sodium set-up (bulb, ballast & socket/reflector)?
Since you didn't mention a ballast or special socket, I bet your lights are either incadescent or CFL (compact florescent).
Incadescents don't work for growing pot, no matter how much visible light they emit. They don't produce the spectrum that marijuana needs. CFL's work, but poorly compared to MH or HPS.
Did you ever stop to consider: why would indoor growers spend hundreds of $$ on HID lights when 2 dollar lights from k-mart work?

 

yur gonna have to do that yourself. incandesents are full spectrum lights, well probaly anyway, we have no way have detecting most spectrums.
to quote the famous ask ed, ~ a full spectrum light burns white, its watts that count

sodium halids,, oops obvious what happened there lol.


for anyone else who might care to try this. before you do, log into canibus culture and study, start with basics and believe what they tell you. there the pros.
you should see the results, only 400 watts and it works every bit as good as 600 or even 800 watt hps


p.s. i have seen growlights before that are green, plants reflect green light, they dont absorb it.

incandesent bulbs~ 4 dollars
disposable turkey roasting pan for hood~ 3
fan ~ 2 at the thrift store
sockets~ scoungable
cheap nutral potting soil.~ 6 dollars or so, yeah just regular potting soil works great, the plant will take what it needs from the earth, and two gallons of cheap potting soil has enough of everything for a cycle
an once of dank every 45 to 6o days and smoking pot you grew ~

 

come on now......how is 400watts gonna produce the same crop as an 800watt,IT WON'T.....do they even make 800watt lights???? last time i checked it went from 600-800 could be wrong on that though. Also a green growlight is no good for MJ!!! and please even if ur broke lets use soemthing other than a turkey pan for light reflection..LMAO funny shit man. I am not putting any of ur ideas down but you can buy a hood 30$, if u cant afford 30$ then u cant afford to grow nice crops, just my opinion

 

Think you are confused 2 dollar 200 Watt full spectrum bulbs do not exsist. Sounds like like ordinary household bulbs which are useless for growing. White lights are not all full spectrum. Closest thing to this is 200W envirolites which are 15 times the price of your 2 dollar light bulbs.
Several 200W cfls (envirolites, Flourescant tubes) do have the correct spectrum and can be used for growing but in my opinion still not as well as HIDs.

 

spectrum = color
white = all colors mixed
therefore what does a full spectrum light look like ?

 

you need to do some google searches as you seem clueless to lighting. MH and HPS arent full sprectrum, i dont think..i know the HPS is very yellow and the MH is very blue, i use MH for veg and HPS for flowering. Do some reading!!

 

Steffan I am not trying to trick you I promise you you cannot grow with a $2 lightbulb. There is no such thing as a truly full spectrum bulb. Grow bulbs are rated by there par which is the percentage of the bulbs spectrum actually usable by the plant. Ordinary household lightbulbs contain virtually no usable light. cfls have an excellent par but the lumens they give out is very low hence the plants need to be an inch or two away from the bulbs. HPS and MH lights are the growlights used by most growers.
I personally use an extended spectrum HPS bulb for both veg and flowering.
Forget your $2 bulbs, if you want to grow half seriously.

 

Looks like all the knowledge in the world isn't going to help steffan; he wants to find out the hard way.
Btw, Ed Rosenthal NEVER said the color spectrum doesn't matter.
But go ahead on with your 2 dollar lightbulb no nutrients turkey pan grow. Be sure to post the spectacular results, hear.
It should be in 45--60 days, seed to buds, right?

 

and i never said it either, are we having the same convo?

 

ahh what the hell ,, lol
if you do grow under incandesents your plant will strech a bit more becouse they have more infra red, but its not enough to matter and you probaly wont even notice, if your bothered by it throw on a 100 watts of flouresent, and you will have one extremly effective system

 

You said
"to quote the famous ask ed, ~ a full spectrum light burns white, its watts that count"
Ed in this case being Ed Rosenthal.
Speaking of Ed...he probably knows more about marijuana cultivation than anyone else, ever, and had written many books on the subject.
Don't you think that if anyone would know if marijuana could be grown under incadescents, he would?
I give you my word as a hippie and a Ranger--I'll give you a thousand dollars CASH if you can find ONE instance where Ed has stated that marijuana can be grown under incadescents.

I'm beginning to feel more and more that your just a lonely spammer.

 

if i thought for one momment you would pay i would run over to buy his book, and scan in the entire chapter on lights and how plants react to them, I am gonna send him an email for the hell of it

 

You don't have to buy shit, there are several of his books on-line, free.
Happy hunting.

 

Stefan when I was 13 years old I tried to grow under a ordinary light bulb the plant stretched until it toppled over then died soon after. Confused as to your reluctance to take on board information given to you buy some experienced growers on this site. They are trying to help you whats up?

 

Since your not listening to waht growers have to say, mayb u want some info published in a book.....Hydroponic Lighting For Your Garden
There are four requirements that a plant needs for life: Light, water, nutrition & climate. Probably the most important factor that limits the plants growth is the hydroponic lighting that you must provide it with. This obviously isn’t a problem with outdoor gardening. The responsibility for proper hydroponic lighting falls on the gardener. If your plants are not given enough light of the proper spectrum, they will often not perform as well as they could, that is, if they grow at all. When you can't rely on an outside light source, the best choice for hydroponic lighting is high intensity discharge (HID) metal halide light system.

It is difficult to compare HID hydroponic lighting with incandescent light bulbs or fluorescent tubes. Although each form of hydroponic lighting creates light from electricity, that's about where the similarity ends. Fluorescent tubes emit a gentle, low temperature light in a very low wattage. Where fluorescent hydroponic lighting will still work for marijuana plants, they are not as effective as other hydroponic lighting alternatives.

Incandescent lighting (regular light bulbs) are even worse for growing marijuana because they are expensive to operate, give off as much heat as they do light, and don’t offer the spectrums of light necessary for healthy plant growth. Even when you try to change the spectrum of an incandescent light bulb by changing its interior coating, they still will not come close to providing the kind of light a plant requires for vigorous and healthy growth. The only thing that an incandescent bulb will effect is your electric bill. HID hydroponic lighting systems are the safest and most economical way of providing sufficient hydroponic lighting for your plants. There are two kinds of HID hydroponic lighting systems used for indoor gardens:

Metal Halide
High-Pressure Sodium
Metal Halide hydroponic lighting provides an intense light of the blue white spectrum, which is excellent for the vegetative plant growth period. Plants grown under halide hydroponic lighting will usually show increased leaf growth and a strong stem. A fantastic general purpose form of hydroponic lighting, if your garden will only have a single light source, metal halide is your best choice.

High Pressure Sodium (HPS) hydroponic lighting light gives off an orange colored light, which simulates the red hue of the sun. High pressure sodium hydroponic lighting is best used for the flowering stage. High pressure sodium systems are often used In conjunction with metal halide hydroponic lighting for a more complete balance of the light spectrum in a garden. Marijuana finished off under high pressure sodium hydroponic lighting will give tighter, thicker buds with increased yields.

Average Lumen Per Watt Output of Hydroponics Lighting
100 Watt Light Bulb 17.5 Lumens per watt
40 Watt Fluorescent Tube 22 lumens per watt
1000 Watt Metal Halide 125 lumens per watt
1000 Watt High Pressure Sodium 140 lumens per watt

 

your plants toppeled becaose you didnt have enough watts on your plants, and thye only difference between the light itself is incandecence put out more infrared than red, they are very effective for fast growth ( as far as a flowering plant is concerned, no infrared, no light)
its not the best way, not by far. *the best is the sun itself. the best indoor system you can put together will cost you thousands and take alot of your time
but the point is incandesents work ! and if you start with good seed or good clones you will get some respectble dank

* the best pot is started indoors in late january, topped to get it nice and bushy, then put outside as soon as it starts to stay above 58 or so at night and wont be ready untill late fall. no matter how elabrate your system, you cant grow better pot than that

 

You make no sense dude. Last time i checked you can get a bad-ass 1000watt setup for around a grand...hood, bulb, ballast, and ventialtion. you stated they cost thousands....and did u read the post about lighting b4 this last post u made..here i'll copy and paste-Incandescent lighting (regular light bulbs) are even worse for growing marijuana because they are expensive to operate, give off as much heat as they do light, and don’t offer the spectrums of light necessary for healthy plant growth. Even when you try to change the spectrum of an incandescent light bulb by changing its interior coating, they still will not come close to providing the kind of light a plant requires for vigorous and healthy growth. The only thing that an incandescent bulb will effect is your electric bill. HID hydroponic lighting systems are the safest and most economical way of providing sufficient hydroponic lighting for your plants.