Growing Near a Swamp/Marsh area?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Outdoors' started by Infinite Sky, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Infinite Sky

    Infinite Sky Member

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    Ok, so here's the deal:

    I have ten seeds and I live in Minnesota, basically in the woods. It would be easy enough to plant them about 1/4 of a mile into the forest where nobody would ever go and, even if they did, would never notice ten random plants growing here and there unless they were looking for them. But this poses a problem becase a) there probably wouldn't be enough sunlight in the middle of an oak forest and b) if I made a clearing, then it would become painfully obvious what was going on.

    Because of those issues, I was considering doing this near a swamp or marsh area; there's a lot of shit growing in those areas, but none of it is really tall enough to block out sunlight to the point of substantial growth stunting, and there's no question that the soil is conducive to plant growth. Plus, the mosquitoes basically ensure that nobody will be polking around there for more than an extremely short period of time.

    So has anyone ever heard of success in these areas/conditions? And bare in mind that I wouldn't be chucking the seeds into the swamp; really more like planting them in a relatively dry, well lit area very close to it.
     
  2. rangerdanger

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    You have to make sure the soil isn't wet for a depth of at least 3' (more is better), because pot doesn't like "wet feet", it needs to dry out between waterings for optimum growth.

    For that reason, many swamp growers grow in containers, or make a mound of potting soil.
    -Swamps tend to be area's of high humidity, and that can cause a problem i.e. moldy buds.
    -Minnesota's winters come early. Try to choose an early-maturing strain.
     
  3. geckopelli

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    Forget it.

    your plants will be devouerd by bugs- unless you spray, and that's just YEECHY!
     
  4. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    BS, don't ever listen to someone who tells you to forget it if you're growing. The goal is to think of new ways to grow and make already existing ways work for you. There are threads on OG on the topic. One I remember uses long pvc pipes driven all the way down into the sediment, then you syphon out some of the water if there is too much then you do certain layers of soil and nutes. Like rangerdanger said, sort of a mound idea. *Supposedly* produces excellent results if done right. My advice if you're gonna try it, only try it with a couple plants to get a feel for it, and make sure they are healthy, I'd say a foot into veg. The only thing you will have to protect against are insects, as most animals won't venture into swampland to devour your morsels.

    OH and like ranger said, high humidity, so really dense strains may not be the choice for the swamp.
     
  5. geckopelli

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    Ditto my last post.

    water, soil, etc are easily overcome. And humidity outside is not a problem in so fla, so don't sweat it. Generally. humidity is not a problem, except occassionally indoors, although a mold watch should be maintained.

    But the bugs will eat your plants, so find a better spot.
     
  6. Infinite Sky

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    Pesticides are no good?
     
  7. bUrNEd_oUt420

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    i'd say fuck it, give it a shot.....try out a few different ideas, in a few different areas of the swamp... see what works best and use that....
     
  8. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Geck: you ever done it? Was your heady harvest of 12 foot trees destroyed by bugs? People are doing this in the carolinas with success, as well as who knows where else. The technique works, and pests can be overcome. Why don't you go to OG and have a chat with people who do this if you think it's bullshit.
     
  9. geckopelli

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    'cause I don't believe in using pesticides.

    people grow weed in the Everglades and the Okeefenokee- but only by spraying thier plants with chemicals. I've done it myself.
    But I won't do it again.

    Organic farming is difficult at best, and chem ferts are bad enough, but pesticides suck for the plant, the smoker, and the enviroment.
     
  10. Infinite Sky

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    You might want to do a little research before making that claim. I'm going to plead a pretty high degree of ignorance here but, logically, I'm not seeing how spraying five plants with some weak pesticides that are typically used in hobby gardens is going to stop all life dead in its tracks.
     
  11. meangreen

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    That depends on who is growing.I will never hit my plants with any man made pesticide,only organic methods as I take pride in my finished product.Its simply a matter of what one wants as a finished product and if it isnt carbon based its not doing you or the environment any good.Ya may as well smoke cigaretttes,they are cheaper and ya get all the chems ya want without the insects.
     
  12. bUrNEd_oUt420

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    means got a good point....^^^
     
  13. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Yes meangreen's got an excellent point: pests can be controlled with organic methods, swamp growing can be done but is not for the lazy or faint of heart. I look at swamp growing as the most hardcore a guerilla can get. Got a lot of respect for the guys who pull it off, would love to do it someday.

    Geck: one of your sentences was a little unclear to me. You've grown in the everglades yourself, or used pesticides?
     
  14. Infinite Sky

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    Are pesticides inherently inorganic? I mean, I'm sure there's some organic stuff available that goes beyond diatomaceous earth and the like, but how well does it work? Any success/failure stories?
     
  15. meangreen

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    There are plenty of organic products that are very effective of which contain neem oil and pyrethrum as example.
     
  16. geckopelli

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    YES and yes-

    and the desert, and the mountains, in the SW, SE, and mexico.

    and the closet, the attic, and a greenhouse.

    Chems make it easy, and you can bet you're consuming some when you smoke commercial.

    But they still suck.
     
  17. rangerdanger

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    Lots of organic pesticides, inc. tobacco, soap, & chili peppers.
    Don't spray on buds, but I've found that both plant-eating animals and bugs tend to avoid marijuana when it is budding.
     
  18. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    So when you grew in the everglades you planted in raised 5 gallons, or pvc, or what? Would like a little commentary if you can recall the details.
     
  19. rangerdanger

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    Another alternative to a mound is to use a container.
    The container should have holes at the side at the bottom that can't be blocked.
     
  20. geckopelli

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    True!

    But the plants must live long enough to bud.
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    The everglades are peppered with small islands.
    After extensive preperation, we grew in the ground- and sprayed, sprayed, sprayed!

    frequent chem feedings were nessacary to compensate for rain induced soil depletion
     

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