What are your opinions on it? I think when it's done right it loosk verry good but for every good piece there ar hundreds of shitty ones. I think I'm going to try it soon. My friend is putting dry wall up in his garage and said I can practice under it beofre it goes up. I'm going to try somehtign simple liek a few of the ones on this page. http://www.detroit-graffiti.com/gallery11/index.htm If I can get good enough control I'm going to try some public tags.
I think that it should be an art form, not "i was here, but my tagging is illegible so only i know that i was here" I think there should be mild jokes, or obvious pointings out of things "I am a bridge!" the random acts of ugliness are crappy, but if someone painted something awesome on my garage, I'd leave it up. If it was considered an art form (like oil painting, or sculpture) then people would ask "hey, can I paint on your wall outside? you aren't using it, are you?" I like the style of good graffiti, but the stupid "gangsta" tagging can suck a nut
I don't like the crappy ones, but there are good taggers(who really arnt gangsters) who can put there tag on a wall and still making it visualy appleasing, through color and form but the only message they are convaying is there tag. You really have to look at it the right way to like it. From waht you said though check out this guy called "banksy"
I want to tag this bridge that I always pass and it would be so easy. I just need practice though first just like you. Maybe we'll pass by one another one day lol
art is beutifull, garffity is mostly just shitty writing by ghangztaz that looks shit, the artistic ones (like 2%) are awesome
Good work on authroized places is awesome. Most stuff is shit. Also, even good artists should get permission to tag things they don't own. Otherwise its vanddalism. Art is a matter of taste that should not be forced on anyone because they will just have to spend money to take it down.
i love graffiti. i'm getting the word "peace" graffitied on my lower back... permenantly. one of my good graffiti artist friends is doing up a design for me. this guy is amazing, he's in grade 10, and sells the most spray in the city, not to mention he is incredibly talented. good graffiti = good bad graffiti = bad
is much harder than it looks you need a lott of practice... banksy is amazing but his work is stencilled and i have more respect for the freehanders...although banksy is very political. stick to something simple...look for a crew called vimoas from germany or somewhere like that...really good style and their fills are brilliant... x x x
I still don't think its cool to be tagging someone elses shit. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you shouldn't force grafitti on someone if they don't want it. I'm a little biased because I've repeatedly painted over a fence that gets tagged with gang stuff. However, if its done on someelses' property without their blessing, it is vandalism and should be punished. Just my 2 cents Don't get me wrong. I think there are amazing artists out there and I think tagging can bring positivity. However, the illegal tagging brings alot of counterproductive stigma to the whole deal.
^ my thoughts exactly. see, graffitti just cheapens everything it touches. it makes things lose value, and appeal, and just looks plain cheap. you have no right to do that shit on someone elses property. just like you dont have the right to walk up to someones car and scratch the shit outta it. i will totally agree there is some unbelieveable graffitti out there, but it is few in far between in my experience. I live in buffalo ny. you walk down the street, and every other building is tagged with someones name, or initials, or nickname.... even if they can make it look a little fancy... big fuckin deal. you just fucked up someones shit so you could right your name on it? gimme a break. then, some rival tagger walks up, sprays his shitty ass tag over the other guys tag and that cycle just repeats until the entire buildin looks like complete shit. hell, ive seen what ill admit was a pretty incredible bob marley mural on the side of a train, but it was lost to rival taggers writin their little gang affiliation and shit on there. the whole fuckin thing has just been covered and covered with more graffitti. even when theres what i guess you would call "good graffitti", it is ruined because too many people involved with that shit just have no respect, for anything at all. now on the other side, there are also a couple of abandon yards and busted down factories that have been decaying in buffalo for years, and scattered amongst them there are some talented graffitti artists. there are some really incredible looking murals there, but they are struck with the same problem of people just trashing them with more graffitti. ive got no problem if you are taking an abandon building that has been dragging the community down for years, and spray something fucking beautiful on it. that, im totally okay with. its when people tag for no other reason than just to simply vandalize something and write their name on it, then i got a problem. that, is not an art form. to be honest, the vast majority of grafitti out there is shit, and it vandalizes and cheapens something people have no right to touch.
I really like seeing anti-authority tags on important landmarks for some reason. For instance, if Bush were ever carved into Mt.Rushmore, I would have an orgasm if his face got covered in lots of "Expose the Propaganda" tags.
When it's done right it's great. Problem is, as has been said, most of it isn't done right, much of it is pure vandalism and 'look at how many times I can write my name' type stuff. TBH I didn't think much of the OP's link, a few OKish pieces but the rest was pretty amateur looking... I used to do acetate stencils and the like (never had a steady enough hand for painting), just poems and silly pictures but haven't done it for several years. There's a big graffiti scene in my city and there's great work dotted around everywhere. Some pics of some local graf: http://flickr.com/photos/wurmy/1354449013/ And if you're into Banksy there's loads of his work round here, the one below is 30 seconds from my house. I live by the station and my town is allegedly the gay capital of europe and the most liberal place in the country so when visitors get off the train this is one of the first things they see...
^ Im sorry, but the 3rd pic in that post is the exact same type of shit that pisses me off... woo-hoo, somebody can write their name in bubble letters and paint it fancy colors. its so fucking lame that people are willing to vandalize something for that... i mean, if youre gonna do it, at least be good at it. paint something that is visually appealing, not something that is gonna cost the owner of the building loads of cash to have to keep fucking painting over it. i would love to find some of the taggers in buffalo, and go up to their house and just throw fuckin black paint all over everything. im sure they wouldnt be too thrilled about it, but they wont think twice about doing it to somebody elses shit. most taggers need to get a life, and those who are exceptionally talented should pursue art in other forms, or at least in legal ways, because truth be told, they have the potential to become very skilled artists, they just cant rise above spraying shit on somebody elses building.
Graffti is a great way to brighten up a town. Afterall pointless art is a form of vandalism... so why not actually vandalize things.
Because vandalism costs somebody a lot of money to fix. Its not your right to do as you please when it impacts somebody else. Your rights end where mine start, and I feel that I have a right to expect my wall to stay tagging free. I found a video on line where a bunch of skater punks are kicking the shit out of some taggers in there city. It was pretty brutal, and I don't condone their choice of punishment, but I understand the frustration of repeatedly spending an afternoon painting over some wankers evening of fun with a spray can. I think the taggers got what they had coming.
