Government planning guidelines for suspending elections due to terrorism!

So all they need is a "Reichstag Fire" in late October, and Dubya can stay in office indefinitely......

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm20449_20040625.htm

 

here's a twist...
maybe that is just what we need.

you just never know how this shit is gonna turn out. maybe bush is the catalyst for real change in this world. maybe he is not done wronging the right, making the unbalance.

maybe after the revolution when we have peace and love i will make a shrine for him

 

I might tend to believe you, but then reality sets in...

We can't get enough people motivated enough to actually register and VOTE, so do you really think that there would be enough people sufficiently motivated to become "revolutionaries" fighting to reclaim the country (presumably by force), when the potential consequences would be much higher?

In the event of a suspended election, people would grumble and moan for a few days/weeks, and then go back to their lattes, reality TV, and SUVs just like they did when the LAST election was stolen. As long as their personal "comfort zone" isn't being effected, I'm afraid that most of the AmeriKKKan public would accept just about ANYTHING at this point if the government's media mouthpieces told them to. Suspended elections, internment camps, martial law, what have you....

 

that wont happen.

 

Until it does. Never say never.

 

I never said never. I said it wont.

 

I don't doubt that it will happen, otherwise why would this even be an issue. It never seemed to be an issue before Bush started stealing elections... and getting away with it. Ellis makes a good point. This could happen, maybe it won't. But if it does, people won't care.

 

I suppose it's possible... but pretty unlikely. The only way I can see this sorta thing get even close to being pushed through is if there happens to be another big 9/11 style crisis sometime between now and November that's sufficient enough to scare people into accepting it. Otherwise, I can't imagine them pulling off this kinda shit.

 

exactly...and i wouldnt be suprised if we did see another "terrorist" attack around that time

 

That's exactly what we are TALKING about. The attack might actually be the work of foreign terrorists, or staged by the US government in order to suspend the election.

If you don't think that the government would consider committing acts of terrorism against it's own citizens for propaganda value, Google on "Operation Northwoods".

 

Funny thing is, Operation Northwoods was never put into effect. Shit like that is thrown around the board room and mentioned in a few memos, but never taken seriously or considered. There's no way that Bush would pull something like that if there is a realistic chance of him winning the election without needing to. If the polls showed his support was 15% and dropping, it would be a different story. But it's not. The country is more or less split, and there's no reason to pull out a last-resort trump card like staged terrorism with 50/50, or even 60/40 odds.

 

I guess people who keep claiming, despite all evidence and any possible rational understanding of the facts, that Bush "stole the election" must not realize how stupid it makes them look (not to mention whiny), otherwise they'd stop doing it.

What makes anyone think that the Bush administration is planning to suspend elections, cancel election day, impose martial law, etc. is beyond me. What are you people gonna say when it doesn't happen? I suppose you'll just crawl off without saying anything, because of how stupid you're gonna look.

It's one thing to say it'll "never happen here" and let your guard down about ever being vigilant, and it's quite another to imply that it's "likely."

-Jeffrey

 

Oh, puhlease. Are you fuckin' for real?!

Your implication, if I'm taking this correctly, is that somehow, for the benefit of the Bush administration remaining in power, the administration is somehow conspiring to "have" something happen a la a terrorist attack right around election time? Like, you're accusing them of planning to actually MAKE a terrorist attack occur?

You need to seriously get off the fuckin' dope.

-Jeffrey

 

Um, are you saying that if he really thought he was likely to lose, you believe he really WOULD do something so unbelievably EVIL as stage a terrorist attack that would take American lives, just to remain president?

Talk about your paranoid lunatic fantasies. This board is full of 'em!
What you're describing is something that a person would have to be some sort of a satan-worshiping terrorist to be able to do. Do you really think that morality and a sense of right and wrong is soooo in the toilet in our world that a President of the United States of America would be, essentially, a terrorist sellout of his own people, just to stay president??!

-Jeffrey

 

I still doubt that it would likely happen, I don't think they could pull it off. As gullible as the general public can be I give enough of them credit that there would be substantial opposition to such a ploy.

As for the honor of the presidency, eh, well I think you should at least look back on our history and all the secrets and scandals that presidents have been involved in. And remember FDR's administration had prior knowledge of an attack on Pearl Harbor before it happened, and our current administration had some idea of a big terrorist attack coming up before 9/11.

 

Never considered?!?! WTF?

The very fact that it was planned is proof that it was CONSIDERED on some level. This wasn't a "rogue operation", it was drawn up by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and was killed by the president. But the very fact that such a proposal could even be entertained by the highest levels of US military leadership shows that the military was (is?) capable of just about ANYTHING.

 

Really, I thought that calling other people stupid simply because you disagree with them to be stupid and whiney in and of itself. Hmmm.... I guess I'm wrong, now I should run away with my tail between my legs because some twit can't see the truth right before his own eyes. I'm sorry, have you not read the reports where people were turned away from the polls and told that they cannot vote? Are you not aware that Jeb Shrub had huge influence over Florida? Are you unaware of the power of the Supreme Court, that coincidentally Bushie's father appointed. I mean simply using common sense to come to conclusions these days is too much to ask from some people. Especially when thier only response to someone with whom they disagree is "you're stupid". And what should all of us who oppsed the war and told all of you that our soldiers are going to die. Now they are coming home in body bags. Should we say "I told you so". How about when this whole plan backfires and Bush is finally exposed (if that will ever be allowed to happen). Can we say "I told you so" then? How about now when there have been no WOMD found can I say "I fucking told you so you stupid idiot"?

So, to answer your ridiculous question, no I will not crawl anywhere, because one I wholeheartedly believe in my values and I will not compromise them no matter how much in the minority I may be. You and people like you do not scare me, as much as you try. You cannot make me cry in my pillow and take back what I believe in. And if at any point I am wrong, and it can be proven, I will most certainly own up to it and say so, unlike you and those like you.
So, what are you going to say when it does happen?

 

Beyond the clearly documented plausibility for high level military and government duplicity and betrayal of the American people demonstrated by the Operation Northwoods material, it seems the predominance of the American public has either forgotten or not been taught about the most shocking and revealing blueprint of government malfeasance which has remained operative principle in our national war agendas to this day, namely The Pentagon Papers.

That volumnous roster of lies and misinformation is as valid in what we see being played out again now as it was during the conflicts of the Reagan administration in the 80's and all the way back to the lengthy Vietnam Era around which it is focussed.

Remember, the faces of administrations change, the infrastructure of state by which our nation operates and maintains a consistent status quo (regardless of which Party happens to be ascendant at any given time) does not. There is a wealth of heinous policy options that indeed lay dormant until an administration chooses to apply them to further their own ends. To keep scrutiny at bay, just call anyone daring to demand accountability and explanation a "conspiracy theorist", mainstream media is only too willing to help spread that convenient cloak far and wide.

 

But the Pentagon Papers never dealt with a massive staged terrorist attack on American civilians (or anything of the sort), only the government fuck-ups during the Vietnam War.

No, a 9/11-style attack on American civilians is WAY beyond keeping documents about the Vietnam War hidden from the press (which was fought in court ironically).

True.

 

wow did you even read the fucking article?