I will be attempting my first Ayahuasca brew, I just ordered the ingredients. I have been looking at various recipes. I have chosed red Cappi vine, Diplopterys cabrerana and Peganum harmala. I was planning on using the Peganum harmala ground up into capsules and take them 20-40 minutes before the brew. Any suggestions or tips? I am excited, I have been having some personal problems and would like to see if I can get back in touch with my inner being.
Just an anecdote. My father traveled to the Peruvian Amazon as sort of an eco-tourist to the ayahuasca experience. He was directed to a reputable shaman, given his brew and ended up having the whole experience interrupted by having to transport the shaman to the hospital because he had fallen violently ill.
Sorry to get off topic, but is there more to this story? Was he able to function/responsible for getting the shaman to the hospital? Did he have a chance to repeat the experience or was it a wasted trip?
He was able to function. His big disappointment was that he could have done the whole thing at home. One of his big lessons is that ayhuasca brewing is in many ways a subjective science.
We are about to get our first snow fall, so I was planning on brewing it up, consuming and going for a nice hike. Do some deep thinking with mother nature, my husband will be with me also I would hate to travel to Peru to take ayahuasca and have something like that happen. But that is something I would love to do in my lifetime, someday. For now, I would like to experiment at home where I feel comfortable. I don't really like to try new substances where I don't feel comfortable, specially another country. But that may be the fact that I have never left my state, and it's all I know.
Then I will sit down For a while. That is basically what I want to do is take the brew and go for a hike. Find a nice place to start a fire and enjoy the out doors before it gets too cold and I have to bundle up in a snow suit. I would like to have as much of the experience outdoors, that is where I get the most clear thinking.
Uh. You will not be able to walk on ayahuasca. You are going to be rooted, like a severely intense mushroom trip. There will be no pleasant hike or building a fire. You will be the fire
It will start kicking in within half an hour, and you will be peaking within an hour or two. It will last over 6 hours. You will probably not be able to speak during that time . . . are you sure you're fully aware of what you're getting into this isn't a psychedelic stroll in the park
indeed it is a subjective science. but there is a huge difference between drinking with a competent shaman, in the presence of the icaros, and drinking at home. the icaros are at the very center of the expirience imo.
sounds like a wanna be shaman. there are tons of those in peru. especially in places like iquitos and other eco/ethno tourist places. someone told me like only 1 in 10 is authentic. if your dad went down there "looking" for it chances are he found a charlatan. they cater to people like your father who have no idea what they are doing and probably no business down there messing with aya in the first place. on the off chance he found an authentic one its possibly a brujo could have fucked with him. it is not uncommon for brujos to be hired to assault healers in order to interrupt ceremonies. this will cause them to lose their clients. usually another healer or a faker hired the brujo so they can snatch up the business. its really shady business down there. a lot of backwardsness, exploitation of the medicine. fake shamans, fake ayahuasca ect ect.
caapi contains several alkaloids, including harmine harmaline in this plant the monoamino oxidase inhibitor is very strong so this is dangerous, but fasting for 12ha befor u take it such a simple precaution will already eliminate most of the theoretical dangers of tyramine. ................................................................................................................. I have to warn in the strongest way from ever combining yohimbe or yohimbine with a MAO inhibitor. There is no increase in pleasant effects and the sideffects are physically terrifying. Most of the warnings about MAO-A inhibitors are wrong, exaggerated or apply to only a tiny number of individuals who show hypersensitivity to MAO-A inhibition. The vast amount of precautions listed on some websites serve little purpose other than to scare people and to provide them with a justification for some of the psychosomatic symptoms people may develop during a difficult or challenging ayahuasca experience. If you are unsure whether you are one of those hypersensitive people then you should do a simple test before embarking on an ayahuasca adventure (where legal). If you consume just the MAO inhibitor (without any additives), together with double the exact food items you intend to consume in the 12 hours before and after the planned ayahuasca experience, you will be able to test their safety. If you do not show symptoms to the food in this instance then it is unlikely/impossible that you will develop such symptoms during the full experience. Regular consumption of ayahuasca brews have been found to increase serotonergic activity and 5HT uptake by as much as 25% (Callaway 1994). This is undoubtedly the reason why ayahuasca has such beneficial effect in treating depressive disorders, anxiety and PTSD. Harmaline was once called 'telepathine' when it was first isolated from B.caapi due to the mythical telepathic properties it is claimed to elicit. However this name became obsolete when telepathine was found to be identical to an alkaloid previously extracted from Peganum harmala, which was already named harmaline.
I have a few questions about Ahayusca tea also, as I just recieved some Mimosa Hostilis root bark and Caapi Vine from a friend as a gift. Can I make the brew ahead of time and save it for later? How long can I keep it? Should I fast or eat lightly for a period of time prior to ingestion? Does it matter at all? Thanks.
Nope, not yet. I have all the stuff, but I am not ready. I did a syrian rue / mushroom combo this weekend that was nice
Another lesson is that "shaman tourism" is a usually bunch of crap. I'm sorry for not having anything useful to contribute to the discussion but if you look at the reviews of those trips, the grande majority of people who do this end up very disappointed. Real shamanic practitioners are not 'allowed' to accept payment or money, no medicine man in his right mind would take in droves of tourists who have no experience with this drug, and very very few north americans have the spiritual knowledge and training to be able to have a meaningful, deeply spiritual and well-guided trip. Shamans spend their entire life learning in and about nature and the spirit world. You can't just step off a plane and hope to have a similar experience because some Peruvian tour company says you can. ANYWAY I wish you all the best of luck and love in your trip, and I was not saying you *can't* have a fabulous deep spiritual experience, I was just talking more about the whole shamanic tourism thing. Trips *are* subjective and as long as you're open, you have the opportunity to learn a lot!
