God and the prolonged Santa Claus effect

I do not have any strong feelings about Santa Claus, I do not see in myself any irreversible negative effects from believing in him for whatever period of time. But imagine if you had never questioned your parents about him, or even when you saw your parents putting presents under the xmas tree and Santa still had the unquestionable clout that God has, what would the effects be to a developing personality?

Are we putting children (then adults) at a disadvantage by indoctrinating them with a mindset of an external locus of control (i.e. *omni- being).

Is culture inhibiting an evolution of the mind? Making der ubermensch less and less possible with each sermon?

 

Culture and Society have always been the classical inhibitors in Nietzsche's theories. Der ubermensch is the one who breaks through society, reaches the top of the ladder and revalues the world as we know it.

I think, the revaluation has been happening for a while now... we live in a nietzschean society, man. culture is actually conducive and even encouraging towards der ubermensch. For example, the capitalist system of survival of the fittest, which is a big leap away from Nietzsche's strictly-christian world.

we no longer live in nietzsche's level mental oppression. We have the internet

Now, we need an ubermensch to teach us love, not hatred, not survival of the fittest, we have learned those well, all too well... that's my stand.

 

uber huh ?


i am santa claus

 

Society has always mentally conditioned its citizens, whether it be God, fairy tales, education or the political process. Nietzsche left society but finally had to return, to what end? Humanity was still the same, they rejected his vision. The rule of the day was still "eat, drink, be merry." Society cannot call forth the Superman, it must still be done by the individual. When that individual becomes a Superman Society will seek ways to kill him, he cannot be allowed to function within a society which brainwashes its citizens because he will usher in the end of society.

What do you consider the evolution of the mind? Psychic powers? More intellectualism? Being better able to logically function? Being able to discriminate more clearly, to think more clearly? If you truly believed that you wouldn't be eating junk food, would you?, you wouldn't be eating animal meats, transfats, hydrogenated oils, sugars, et. al. But you seem to be advocating the evolution of the mind without rtaking diet as a precursor to brain health. So how can a brain be healthy in today's culture of processed foods?

Nietzsche's Superman was spiritual in nature, so trying to apply materialistic connotations to "him" is disengenious. Nietzsche's original meaning, imo, went beyond the mind. Humanism co-opting his message relegates the discussion to political mechanisation, social manipulation. As an ideal it is bound to fail because it is relegated to a philosophy.

 

Humans in general are very egocentric and that blinds people. We conceive of a magical man in the sky that gives us immortality and disregard the blatant irrationality of the matter.

 

I suppose it depends on who is asking the questions. Some people will be quite content to have the majority of people believe that they should allow themselves to be controlled by some "outside" entity. For those people, the mental development of the individual need go no further than what is necessary to satisfy their needs. For my part though, I do not see any advantage to interpreting events in this manner. Whats' it get you? On the bad side you have the nightmarish world of the occultist and supernaturalist. Even on the good side you still have problems. No, it definitely is an inhibitory factor. Things need to be well-defined. Myths such as santa claus are good myths but still delusional. Better to set people straight.

 

An external locus of control never does any good. People would be better off with an internal locus of control, therefore leading them to take responsibility of their actions, rather than blaming god, for example.

 

control freaks. why think anybody is in control? where is there any evidence that anybody, supernatural or whatever is in control? and who is talking about supreme beings? why even talk about gods and supreme beings, or santa claus for that matter. it is just more god talk and supernaturalism. do you have to see it as that? i think not. there are other ways to interpret things. the struggle between good and evil, more myths. some myths are better than others but in the final analysis they are still myths and what is beyond that, nothing....but that is a hard one and not much is heard from those that make it

 

One problem with God is that it leads to Fatalism, which takes the responsiblity off the individual's shoulders. People feel safe when things aren't in their control. When your shitty life possesses hidden meaning, it feels less shitty in the moment.

Because I think I am repsonsible for my own actions doesn't mean I think I am a supreme being. I don't even follow the logic in that. Its not about control. Its about common sense.

I select "Little Wing", THAT IS ALL. nothing more. extra steps are superfluous (+27 points)

coolner- "i have been blessed by something with life. i'm happy with what i have."

that something is your parents. They had sex and then your ma gave birth to you. There is no reason to add a transcendental creator being into the equation.