Globalwarming

Discussion in 'Global Warming' started by ChildoftheRisingSun, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. ChildoftheRisingSun

    ChildoftheRisingSun Member

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    So there's propably been much talk about globalwarming but we cant talk too much about can we?. The Europe is starting to change for the good of our globe , but China.India,Russia(i don't count it in europe) and U.S.A ain't doing anything. So what should we do,protest? We surely could save our globe together.If we all could stop using cars or change them to electric cars.
    Also we could recycle because dumps are getting full:(
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It seems that cars aren't necesserilly the key to global warming. Could even be the sun, a natural cause. Not saying it is true, i'm saying we should be critical about our sources of information. Especially when it's hyped ;)My opinion is to live more in harmony with nature anyway, despite what caused global warming. Doesn't mean we all need to get rid of our cars, but we could change a lot for the better. It's not only good for our earth, also for ourselves. Living with a conscience feels better in the end.
     
  3. crazylegs

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    Yes, give up your car. Walk, ride a bike, use public transpo if you must. Learn to live without having to travel farther than you can walk or go on a bike. Live within your neighborhood or move to one where you can live that way. The notion of being able to travel long distances at will is purely modern. People lived within neighborhoods and villages for thousands of years. The need to travel is an addiction that was brought on by the industrialization of society and the desire for excess material possessions, power and luxury, in other words greed. If we don't change this mindset there is no hope for the earth because non-polluting energy does not exist at this time. Even solar and wind power require large amounts of conventionally generated energy to produce the hardware. True reliance on these kinds of things is a long way off. And if you want to change the world, start with changing yourself. Getting in tune with the earth is a powerful method of achieving sanity and happiness.
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    Global Warming is a silly concept.

    Do you really need such a cheap excuse as global warming to treat mother earth kindly?
     
  5. PurplePearl

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    Not meaning to be rude or anything but how, if we get rid of our car, will my husband be able to drive the nine miles to work every day, to feed, clothe and support me, him and our three kids? We don't live oppulently (sp?), we don't fly in planes and we recycle and compost and re-use as much as it is possible to. Is's far more achievable to let people do as much as they can without preaching to them to get rid of their cars?? Don't buses and trains pollute just as much? If everyone got rid of their cars there would have to be more buses, thereby negating the first action. I like to be able to go where I want, where I want, at my own conveneince, not standing in the rain waiting for a frigging bus!! And then for there to no spare seats or have to sit next to some weirdo that smells of their own urine (or worse).
     
  6. PurplePearl

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    No we don't need that cheap excuse at all. Well said.:)
     
  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Exactly what I was thinking when I made my other post here earlier. :)

    I agree we should use our cars more thoughtful, which also counts for all kinds of energy sources. Not using them at all is really not necessary, a lot of people really need them. Need them indeed, since I cannot fully agree with your point about travelling around, crazylegs. However it makes a lot of sense what you said though, I want to experience other places with my own senses, even after I think of your post very well I still cannot see that in myself as being greedy. Of course there will be people travelling to places just to brag about it and make themselves feel better, but there are a lot of different reasons to travel.
     
  8. cheech & chong

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    General hippie rule states that if your destination is 3 miles away walk, if its 6 or less miles away, bike there. If its further than 6 hitchhike or drive there.

    Also, build a compost pile, pick up trash on the side of the road. I get trash, mainly cans and take them to get money off them. Think of little things like that and your doing your part for the world.
     
  9. rebelfight420

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    walk and be a vegetarian...
     
  10. gshdgns

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    Nicely put.
    I for one do not believe that global warming is caused by the human race. The earth has had warming and cooling trends for millions of years.
    And I agree, we do not need junk science to give us an excuse to treat the earth kindly. Take care of what we have and it may last a little longer.
    I walk to and from work because it is only two miles. My wife forks twenty miles away so she carpools with a coworker. Little things, but woth the effort to keep the air a little cleaner, and a little money out of big oils hands.
     
  11. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    Guess we don't. Even some of Hindu gods said "take care of envronment".
    And i suppose human's should go back to nature.
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Not totally. We are with to many for that now.
     
  13. lithium

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    Nobody's asking you to get rid of your car, just to consider using it thoughtfully and responsibly and only when necessary.

    I don't know where you live, but it is very likely, unless you live in a small rural village, that you have public transport links not very far away. Even if you don't, it's likely that your husband's workplace does, so a cycle ride to the nearest train station is really not that difficult. The full 9 miles is actually not too far to cycle every day - if he is fit it will be easy, if he isn't he will get fit very quickly for free and without much extra expenditure of time. Car sharing? There are plenty of alternatives.

    I'm assuming you just haven't thought about this issue very much, as evidenced by your claim that public transport is worse for pollution that everyone having their own car. Public transport carries many more people than cars - which are often single occupant - so a bus' carbon footprint is divided by every commuter on that bus.

    All we ask is that you think about your impact on others rather than just doing the most convenient and easy thing. Unless people do, we will need to start imposing very high tax penalties on people who don't...
     
  14. themnax

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    this is why we NEED REAL alternatives, and a culture who'se values prioritise them. instead of measuring 'return' in terms of SYMBOLIC value.

    =^^=
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  15. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Your status says you live in ENGLAND. This is where i live...

    Public transport here is WIDESPREAD AND WORKS. I know for a fact theres a train station in Sussex, as i travel through regularly. MY fiancé must travel 9 miles to work each day too, from Cheltenham to Gloucester. HE USES THE TRAIN. There are also buses

    As for them polluting more, they hold more people and run anyway, therefore there wouldnt be more pollution. The trains i ride are often almost empty. Seats you could have used! And the production of cars uses so much energy, whereas buses and trains are usually older and last longer

    ALSO train lines are already in place and are efficient. Yet there are so many cars on Englands roads now that they continue to build more and more and more. More concrete smothering our land, less natural habitat, less plants to help our atmosphere

    This is however not ideal, and you make a good point that if more people use the transport more buses etc will be made. Therefore, why not move closer to where your husband works, so he can cycle, or walk?

    Oh and as for the buses being grotty, yes, lots are. Thats because A-not many people use them in comparison to cars, therefore they dont feel they need to make them better
    B-This world is becoming uglier with things like cars and more roads, people get depressed about it, as this is not a natural habitat, and they become disgusting
    As for having to sit with others, it seems to me being in contact with other people and sharing things is a lot more natural than sitting all alone in a tin box

    Just some thoughts
     
  16. verseau_miracle

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    Oh, and having to stand in the rain? Rain is natural, and shouldnt be such a bother to a human being. Its worrying if it is so. Thats said, the rain IS actually getting really bad now, and you know why that is? Its acidic. It stings my eyes and it falls too often, making my hair stand on end. And i have a feeling this isnt helped by the droves and droves of cars that pass me by as i stand, each containing one solitary person
     
  17. verseau_miracle

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    Please dont think im preaching to make anyone feel bad or anything btw. This is the way i am, im passionate about this subject and feel its important to share this view. I totally respect that youre making efforts. I sure know i have a long way to go myself before being as eco-friendly as possible
     
  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Eating your freshly caught prey while it's still breathing is natural as well.
     
  19. verseau_miracle

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    Or is it? If you didnt realise this is something that is highly disputed and is becoming moreso just recently. It would seem, seeing as raw meat is dangerous, that this is not natural at all. Do some research. Rain, however, would fall regardless of what we do. Its just rain!
     
  20. verseau_miracle

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    P.s-you did make me giggle though. We really wouldnt live very long, would we? And the idea of a creature with the vast capability to love and empathise such as the human being NATURALLY being so inhumane as to not even bother hitting a stone or something over the animals head before tucking in is silly, and worries me slightly you would think that. Im not arguing meat eating (in this thread)...but RAW, with all the fur on still breathing...NATURAL? And that compared to rain falling. Come on!
     

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