Giving up all toxic substances (for now or forever)

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Dancing til Dawn, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    Hey hippies,
    this may be the most boring post I have ever written...
    Currently I am in the process of giving up everything that is toxic..
    Caffeine,
    Tobacco
    Alcohol
    and all other toxic substances...

    It isn't easy

    And...........
    I am BORED ... I don't see many friends now and have to stay home as I am recovering from a broken ankle ....
    I am meditating, swimming writing, any idea's on what else I could do while semi laid up?
    Please don't say masturbation as I am so over it or sex, I have given that up too, until I find someone work giving that energy too.

    Question is
    will I

    A, Give up and go on a bender

    B, Go completely bonkers

    C, Come out of this a cleansed healthy human!

    Any wise words of support or pearls of wisdom welcome ....

    :2thumbsup:
     
  2. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    we need more people like you,

    there arent enough designated drivers in the world.
     
  3. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    Exactly! :2thumbsup:

    Actually I looking for a hatchback car or van at the moment in UK -
     
  4. usedtobehoney

    usedtobehoney Senior Member

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    Well as I've already wished you luck with that. I will share with you my experience. This will depend on how much of the things you're cutting out that you were regularly consuming...but...

    For me, I was drinking a few nights a week, smoking pot several times a week and cigarettes usually every night...not usually during the day.

    First I cut out the alcohol and weed. I really wasn't very active during that time, just took care of my daughters...did a lot of reading and just thinking and remembering and imagining how I would feel on the other side.

    I did a lot of turning those things down...I would sit and watch people and just feel like "I am not missing out on anything" and use their behavior as research, like studying human behaviors, characters/personalities for stories. Writing and reading were immensely helpful. I also played the guitar and learned more skills as much as I could.

    I smoked cigarettes for a little while to help me feel somewhat high. Then I stopped, it wasn't super difficult to turn it down a few times and then just get in the habit of not even thinking about it.

    There was this internal game I played with myself. It's somewhat difficult to explain really, but there was always an underlying story to everything...I began to look at my emotions and desires in a really different way. It became a game to find my challenges and plow through them, or just sit with them and wait for that feeling of elation when I realized each time, that I'd gotten to a place of not dosing with some substance or another.

    Caffeine was something I eventually gave up too, though I didn't really ever start taking caffeine until I stopped taking some of the other things. It would be just a rare treat I gave myself...but then I noticed it'd give me lag for several days. For this, I began to eat large quantities of fruit and call it my drug of choice. Eating really high quantities of fruit made me feel the best highs without any lows ever, so that changed everything for me and it really takes away any sense of craving. Anytime I felt like I might want something stimulating I would tell myself "eat more fruit" it totally worked. I became the best customer at the market next to me and got amazing deals and even free fruit.

    Around this time I also got into exercising and getting tons of sunshine. I also started going after a big dream of mine. I smoked once after several months without because I had a massive migraine. It helped the migraine and then I was like, okay, I don't wanna do that anymore.

    I will add more later...I will say it took me a good 6-8 months to be completely rid of weed once I made the decision I didn't want to do it anymore.

    About a year with alcohol.

    Only a few weeks with cigarettes though on occasion if I'm feeling stressed and I see one I might start to "remember the days" but once I quit I never actually picked one up again.

    I'd say...get a ton of really good books to read and pick a fun project you can do, something creative with your mind...and social interaction that is not focused on substances which may very well be internet based...it worked for me, everyone around me was always consuming, so I turned to internet peeps.
     
  5. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    Thank you Honey for writing your experience- well done you! I have a pile of books and have been spending way to much time online. My friend is going to teach me to knit ...

    I am going to get out the didgeridoo and if I can get away with it the drum out...

    My mind wants to go out and play, i have been in pretty much for 4 months. The sun is shining and where I live is buzzing, very hard to stay within yourself. I have had to kerb a lot of friends (party peeps) from visiting as I am really trying to change my life style and save for when I am mobile so I can travel a bit..

    Time for a soak in the tub, that will kill an hour!

    Much love lady and thanks again for taking time out to answer :love:
     
  6. Spectacles

    Spectacles My life is a tapestry Lifetime Supporter

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    I am hoping you "Come out of this a cleansed healthy human!"


    I pretty much need to do the same except for the alcohol which I gave up in 1994.

    I was able to quit cigarettes for a year with chantix but started smoking again about a month before my mother died (Dec 2008) I am still smoking now.

    Knitting and jewelry making was a big help with stopping smoking because my hands were busy. I also started doing Sudoku.

    Some of your goal may be easier when you can get up and move around. Not being able to get up and go can lead to being bored. You have nothing but time on your hands.

    I wish I could say something helpful. I certainly know how frustrating it can be being immobile. :grouphug:
     
  7. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    Thank you spectacles-

    I have lead a party life style for nearly 7 years- even when I had physical problems I pushed on through!
    I do not really talk about drugs online but I have had my moments and borderline habits..

    I am giving up wheat and caffeine too, caffeine I am finding it easier than wheat. I gave up diary when I was 13 and started eating cheese I was 23.
    I have diary free weeks but still have the odd bit of cheese and chocolate. veggie 25 years.

    Maybe being stuck in is not the best time, I crave bread I guess comfort food. I have given up pasta (very hard) cakes easy never really ate them. Biscuits I do like a few times a week surprising I haven't had to much of a problem with..

    Potatoes I love and am finding it hard to cut them out, but I have put on 4 stone in 4 years so without being able to exercise I am trying to make sure I do not get any heavier ..

    I have eaten heaps of fruit & veg and try to have a raw diet 2/3 times a week mainly organic...
    I find the UK really hard as it is often cold and rainy so we go for heavy food rather than salads...
    Thank you I hope too the healthy human option!
    Will keep you posted
    :sunny:
     
  8. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    Good luck sister i wish you the best
     
  9. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    Thanks bubs xxx
     
  10. usedtobehoney

    usedtobehoney Senior Member

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    Just a question. Why are you cutting out potatoes? Potatoes are good source of nutrition and carbs...carbs are good and necessary. One thing I find really useful and interesting is when trying to stop consuming substances, diet does have a lot to do with how you feel. I think the reason fruit works so well is because they are an excellent source of sugar and carbs. Both of which we actually need plenty of. Sugar in its natural form is necessary, satisfying and immensely helpful for us.

    In it's processed form, sugar is often accompanied by loads of fat...as are lots of other carb-based foods, so the carbs get the blame, when the problem is actually mixing fat and carbs together, as well as the quantity of fat in the diet...so fat is what actually causes extra fat and not carbs...Carbs keep you full, give you energy and really helps you to cut out alcohol especially.

    People who drink alcohol often do it because otherwise they are often starving themselves of the necessary carbs their bodies need. If you take the whole food carbs out of your diet, you're going to crave alcohol.

    Potatoes are also great because they digest better than most other carbs, except for other root veggies. Grains of all sorts have digestive inhibitors...hulls & such that make it difficult for them to be digested...so potatoes are one of the best sources of carbs and have nothing to do with weight gain, if you eat them without fats.

    /end rant

    Otherwise, please keep us updated. Sudoku is great too...if you haven't tried that yet...that was great advice!
     
  11. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    My friend, why are you giving up on the hippie religion? Toxic substances are a vital part of what hippies believe in...

    Remember the old quote, "Sex,Drugs and, Rock & Roll?"
    Yeah, the toxic shit is in the drugs catagory.

    But if you are giving up "toxic" substances... then remember..

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Delta 9 The Psychonaut

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    I'm more of this frame of mind as well, if a substance is causing direct and noticeable problems then by all means do away with it, for the most part though I'm a firm believer in "all things in moderation".
     
  13. usedtobehoney

    usedtobehoney Senior Member

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    That's good and fine when it's your personal preference, but when someone creates a thread to help encourage and keep accountable in achieving a goal, it's not helpful to post as you have...

    If the post had been..."wondering if I should quit toxic substances" then the last two comments would be totally fine.

    People do things for different reasons and everyone's circumstances are not the same. Would you say suicide is okay in moderation? Blanket statements do no one justice.
     
  14. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    ^I disagree. If one really wants to stop using "toxic" chemicals; stop using shampoo, conditioner, eating meat etc. etc. In today's society, nearly everything is toxic, hell,
    Acetaminophen is toxic!!! The idea that FDA-approved chemicals aren't toxic, is frankly foolish.

    One must also think of their liver. The liver filters everything one consumes. (Chemicals can even get into your body from the surface of your skin.) The liver ultimately gets stuck with all the toxic chemicals one ingests in their lifetime.

    The idea that caffeine is more toxic than asprin or even McDonalds, is (respectably) silly. Caffeine is found naturally in the Coffee bean, and other herbs. People have been using coffee for hundreds of years with little to no adverse effects. (other than caffeine addiction.)

    I'm not telling him he's doing the wrong thing, I just think he's going about it the wrong way.
     
  15. Spectacles

    Spectacles My life is a tapestry Lifetime Supporter

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    Dancing
    If you are bored and on the computer you could try freerice.com . It has several categories of questions that are multiple choice and for every correct answer they donate rice to the needy. Categories include recognizing artists paintings, vocabulary, geography, math and many others. It can get addictive but it is not something that would harm the body. Enjoy!
     
  16. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    You rant away m'dear ... the reason for potatoes is I do not want to put on any more weight, i roast them in hemp oil or baked. I have heard if you cut out potatoes, it can help keep your metabolism stable. I have been laid up since april with a broken ankle so swimming is really my only exercise. I can now walk a bit, with rest periods. Fruit works amazing I am stocked up and drink heaps of acai and all fruit, beetroot, spinach etc smoothies...I can get carbs from veg. I feel my metabolism is low and a bit sluggish I was very active before.
    Its ok StpLSD25 made me smile as people often think being a hippie means doing drugs! If I am going about it the wrong way what is the right way? Addiction is a harmful side effect surely? I do not use toxic shampoo's or cleaners I am totally nature bound in that way. LSD is less harmful than eating an orange, are you sure? No danger of me eating a big mac :2thumbsup:
    Thank you spectacles I will look into that -
    I had a few drinks with a friend last night, i wont beat myself up about but while i am healing I should really cut it out. That lead me to buying some tobacco, I will try again. Be really good to not depend on anything. Since april 2012 I was prescribed Tramadol and diazapam and I never take meds I only take them when the pain is bad, I am trying not to buy weed as i would like to save to travel. Wish we had medical dispensaries in the UK!
    Delta 9 The Psychonaut I whole hearty agree, sometimes we slip into a little bit more often than we should. I never thought I would, I have always been recreational but I have been a little bit over generous with myself lately. It gets you down being unwell, I am an outdoors person so it really hit hard.

    Thank you all for your replies
    :love:
     
  17. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    Since my last post I only lapsed on some crisps, french bread and tobacco - all the rest have been doing good....
    It was going on a picnic today that did it, with my friend that smokes-

    Everything else I am managing, juiced a heap of nettles. Even as I write this I want to smoke!
    Craving tobacco is really difficult, I wake up and want to smoke. Anyone have any idea's on how to stop this happening?

    I am eating so many carrots I might turn orange..

    I need to flick the will power switch!
     
  18. Manservant Hecubus

    Manservant Hecubus Master of Funk and Evil

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    This reminds me that I need to go back to having my nightly small potato.
     
  19. Dancing til Dawn

    Dancing til Dawn Senior Member

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    mwhaaa... isnt that an addiction ?
     
  20. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    The drink bones connected to the smoke bone...:devil:

    lol, I'm working on the tobacco jag too...
     
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