get rid of secret societys hang them shoot them roast them

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by jonny2mad, May 12, 2007.

  1. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

    in every town we have secret societys in this country , I think no decent man joins a secret society and we should name and shame the bastards .

    I think we should make groups like the masons illegal (Im the son of a mason) with long prison terms for people who wont stop their nonsense , I encourage you to find out about local masonic groups and other secret societys and stop them

    if the law doesnt work Id be in favour of just shooting members of bohemian grove skull and bones ect ect ect
  2. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    You might have better knowledge of freemasons than I - but i think they are not that secret. I don't have a problem with those types of societes .

    Could you post some articles or references where they have done criminal behaviour ?.

    What in hell for ?.
  3. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

    Right On Man
  4. Oz!

    Oz! Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Y'know.. in literally hundreds of years of the freemason society... there is very little evidence of them affecting our lives and the world at all...

    Fuck that, i like the [few] privacies we still have...

    If people wanna meet and an' mutter behind locked doors... .let 'em :D
  5. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    Thanks paul.
  6. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

    i was agreeing with jonny yer daft twat .........fuck off back to yer pentacle .
  7. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

    alright oz man good to see yer posting :)
  8. Oz!

    Oz! Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

    time is being kind brother... time is being kind...

    Good to see ya again :D
  9. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

    well the masons Ive talked to not just my late father tell me one of the big things is scratching each others backs and helping other masons get promoted or contracts .

    Now if you are in the police or the prison service and you try for promotion and keep getting nowhere and someone whispers into your ear you should join the masons and like magic you get the promotion after joining you can see how the thing works

    same with contracts your a local builder and you cant get contracts because your not a mason then you join and then you can

    now Ive seen stuff like that operate and I dont think its fair , and especially when you consider the number of judges and lawyers and policemen who are in the craft I think it effects our legal system .

    I could have become a mason my dad wanted me to join my grandfather was a mason but I dont like secret societys
  10. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    I know I know :rolleyes: Lighten up it's Saturday.

    Old boy network / Feminist solidarity / Black power / Any religouse/ethnic group you care to mention. The list goes on and on - all scratching each others back. At a certain level i agree with you - but there are multiple protections that prevent outright discrimination imho. Life aint fair - boo hoo.

    I know we will never really know how many freemason judges and lawyers and policemen there are but conversly we know how many their are not. Does this balance the whole thing out ? - i dunno.

    To the degree you want them all shot / roasted etc etc ?

    That is what what really frightened me - thoughts like that pass through crazy peoples minds and justifies them shooting random people at their own discretion..
  11. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

    if you have some non freemason in a given proffession this wont mean that promotion for example isnt biased because the non freemason who doesnt know the secret code words and hand signals may well favour the freemason , whereas the mason will be biased towards his mason brother .

    and you wont know a damn thing because your not in on the game their playing , most of the big cases of police corruption in this country have involved masons
    'It is not difficult to ruin a man,' he said. 'And I will tell you how it is done time and again. There are more than half a million brethren under the jurisdiction of Grand Lodge. Standards have been falling for twenty or thirty years. It is too easy to enter the Craft, so many men of dubious morals have joined. The secrecy and power attract such people, and when they come the decent leave. The numbers of people who would never have been considered for membership in the fifties are getting larger all the time. If only five per cent of Freemasons use - abuse - the Craft for selfish or corrupt ends it means there are 25,000 of them. The figure is much closer to twelve or thirteen per cent now.'

    Christopher explained that Masonry's nationwide organization of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff ('very useful in supplying copies of a man's mail'), doctors, government employee bosses of firms and nationalized industries etc., etc. dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly. When the major facts of an individual's life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice - if married he might 'retain a mistress' or have proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence (easily obtainable through Freemason police of doubtful virtue), or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging masons network of 600,000 contacts, a great many of whom were disposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motive for joining. Even decent Masons could often be 'conned' into providing information on the basis that 'Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved'. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow Mason to the Brother from whom information was sought perhaps someone with access to his bank manager or employer. The 'good' Mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemasons Hall whether or not this was so. The 'target' was presented as a Brother in distress by a fellow Mason, especially a fellow Lodge member, that would be enough for any upright member of the Craft.

    Sometimes this information gathering process - often involving a long chain of masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad - would be unnecessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him.

    I asked how this 'action' might be taken.

    'Solicitors are very good at it,' said Christopher. 'Get your man involved in something legal - it need not be serious - and you have him.' Solicitors, I was told, are 'past masters' at causing endless delays, generating useless paperwork, ignoring instructions, running up immense bills, misleading clients into taking decisions damaging to themselves.

    Masonic police can harass, arrest on false charges, and plant evidence. 'A businessman in a small community or person in public office arrested for dealing in child pornography, for indecent exposure, or for trafficking in drugs is at the end of the line,' said Christopher. 'He will never work again. Some people have committed suicide after experiences of that kind.'

    Masons can bring about the situation where credit companies and banks withdraw credit facilities from individual clients and tradesmen, said my informant. Bank can foreclose. People who rely on the telephone for their work can be cut off for long periods. Masonic employees of local authorities can arrange for a person's drains to be inspected and extensive damage to be reported, thus burdening the person with huge repair bills; workmen carrying out the job can 'find' - In reality cause - further damage. Again with regard to legal matters, a fair hearing is hard to get when a man in ordinary circumstances is in financial difficulties. If he is trying to fight a group of unprincipled Freemasons skilled in using the 'network' it will be impossible because masonic Department of Health and Social Security and Law Society officials can delay applications for Legal Aid endlessly.

    'Employers, if they are Freemasons or not, can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of Masonry. At worst he will be dismissed or consistently passed over for promotion.'

    Christopher added, 'Masonic doctors can also be used. But for some reason doctors seem to be the least corruptible men.

    'Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them,' he told me. 'Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It's . . . you see, I ... you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person's life. If they give in they go under. If they don't give in It's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them'.

    'There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists.'

    Senior Whitehall Civil Servant and Freemason
    Quoted in Stephen Knight's The Brotherhood
  12. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

    my mother had a situation when she got divorced from my father she had receipts for the money she paid for a house ,it was being kept by her solicitors .

    Anyway when she found out her solicitor was in the same lodge as my father she moved solicitors and asked for her receipts but they had vanished from the files they kept for her and they denied ever having them I remember seeing them and they were the only proof that she owned the house .

    my late father knew where she kept these receipts and I think he asked for them to vanish thus gaining himself a great deal of money .

    after that she made sure to not trust lawyers and always find out if they were masons before having anything to do with them
  13. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    Are there no good masons ?.
  14. Families are a secret society, at least they usually exclude people who are not part of the bloodline from witnessing or taking part in certain activities. Ban the family.
    Infact smash the fascist family system we have here as they help each other out.

    You will have to define "secret society"
  15. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

    There's a masonic symbol above my town's council offices. Well Scary!
  16. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

    I think that's a minor issue compared to capitalist economic structures. If you wish to promote fairness in societies, campaign against sweat shops or to raise the minimum wage etc, those are much bigger imbalances in global and national societies. The other problem, is that people can swing too far and assume secret societies control everything, and then conspiracy theories tend to detract from genuine issues of political significance. There are enough problems in the world as it is, without inventing new ones....
  17. who cares? If someone is such a nancyboy they need to hold each others cock to join a secret group then I will not even think about them. Its the masons that get arrested in public toilets. They are nothing but a bunch of faggy homo's that have a secret gay club if you ask me
  18. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

    "Arrangements will be made to meet you socially to find out more about you, and to give you a chance to find out more about us."

    Nudge nudge - Wink wink - say know more :rolleyes: :whistling
  19. hahaha will they come round and criticise my curtains and tell me what interior decor I need? Ha ha ha secret gay societies like the masons should come out of the closet
  20. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned


    I'm not sure about the curtains - but I'm sure they would be getting you to read Oscar Wild {Gay Freemason}. :rolleyes:

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