I am doing research of Frogdev worship and so if anyone knows anything about the rituals and practices involved, please let me know. I have a big pond not far from my house and when spring comes, I hope to find a couple of frogs to worship as the Divine Couple as is the practice pictured here. This picture was found here at http://jyotidham.com/index.php?showtopic=511&st=0. Its a Yogic Spirituality oriented website that I am active on and just check it out as there is lots of cool info.
Can I ask you this, why frogs? why not Good looking murthis, you do know that the divine couple is beautiful , so why not worship something that is pleasing to the eyes?
Why frogs? I have a big pond close by my house that is quite noisy with lots of frogs. I think in one's spiritual awakening, its important to tune into one's local environment and due to the plethora of local frogs, what better than Frogdeva worship. Btw, I do think those Frogdeva's pictured above are beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. Those garlands that the bhaktas made for them and the kunkume (sp?) is just so cute and charming. Also, the Divine Couple is worshipped in the form of Frogdevas and so yes, I would be worshipping the Divine Couple. It gives me great pride in being a Hindu that they worship frogs and so many other animals and things. All is divine! All is beautiful!
I'm a bit concerned that putting powder on a frog might damage its skin. And probably, the frogs are frightened by human handling etc.
all of reality is a soup of the subjective vs. the objective with no clear delineation between the two
possibly? that is why i am interested in hearing from those who are knowledgeable of the protocols of Frogdev worship. I will start out slow and make offerings of fresh flies.
The red powder in the pic looks like it's rather close to getting into the frog's eye too - thus causing irritation. It might be better for people to leave animals alone where this kind of thing is concerned. It's pretty dismal to say one is a vegetarian but still prepared to cause suffering to animals through rituals etc.
If the Divine is source of all, then ugliness too comes from God. But to say frogs are ugly is a pureley subjective and conditioned judgement.
great suggestion bill... maybe i will get some bronze Frogdev murtis to worhship as the Divine Couple
Ugliness is only in perception of our eyes, I am not saying that frogs don't come from God, what I am saying is if you really 'love' to worship the divine couple and wish to truly worship the divine couple then you will want to worship them as something beautiful, as something pleasing and helpful. I do not see anything pleasing or loving about worshipping frogs other than ignorance on one hand (from humans) and suffering on the other (from frogs).
The frogs have the same life force in them as everything else. In fact, one can learn a certain amount from frogs. As we all know, they start out as tadpoles - their little world consisting only of the pond with its murky depths, and the ever present danger of predation by other spieces or even bigger and stronger tadpoles. They have no notion of the world 'above', beyond the confines of the pond - they don't even know it exists, and if you told one of them about it, it would probably look at you in dumb disbelief and incomprehension before darting back to the shadowy deeps, its familiar and accoustomed reality. Then, if they get through all that, they grow legs, they change, and out they come, hopping into a bright new world which awaits them. It must be an awakening for them suddenly to find themselves in a new world of light and dry land.... But, quickly, they adapt their new frog behaviour patterns, and now, if asked about it, they'd be in denial that they'd ever been anything other than what you now see - frogs. Still, even here danger lurks at every turn. They hop about in the wet undergrowth trying to avoid capture for use in dubious and strange rites....
Worship everything in the world, not through tossing flowers and kumkum at them, but by showing compassion and love.
While you are at it .... Get your daughter married to a dog to ward of evil also..... A nine-year-old tribal girl in eastern India has married a stray dog as part of a ritual to ward off an "evil spell" on her, Indian newspapers have reported. "I have no regret in marrying the dog Bacchan. I am fond of the dog who moves around our locality," the girl told the AFP. "Bacchan is a stray dog who survives on left-overs. I will take care of the dog," she added. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3004930.stm Instead of condoning such useless practices like frog worship which are based on superstition and ignorence you seek to adopt them ?? Bhaeesh.........
This is really insane. I can't help but wonder if this is actually a marriage though - does it get consumated? If not then it's invalid. For a culture which claims to have known about things such as quantum mechanics and cellular biology thousands of years ago this matter of 'warding off evil spirits' seems a bit primitive and superstitious. Poor girl.
What about the bad things in the world? Should we worship them too? the AIDs virus for instance, or human stupidity and cruelty - these are things in the world - surely we shouldn't worship them.
Yes I find it silly and absolutely condemn such practices and people who carry them out I don't think the marriage would get consumated I honestly think this degradation is a result of cycles What goes up comes down and what comes down eventually goes up again Same with Hinduism it is nowhere near its past glory but I think the worst is also over and we can hope for a slow ascendency to previous peaks
I didn't intend any particular criticism of Hindu culture - like many other cultures there is a great range of different levels involved I know - from highly sophisticated and cultured to quite primitive and backwards. We have the same thing here in the UK only the 'primitives' express themselves in a somewhat different way! Their 'superstitions' seem to revolve around things like football these days, religion having lost any grip it once had on the masses. America, I believe has also it's own share of low-brow religious fundamentalists, whose views are probably worse than the worst superstitious Indian tribesperson, in that they are given much more general credence right up to the top - as we know.