Free speech forums?

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Kandahar2, Jun 7, 2005.

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  1. Kandahar2

    Kandahar2 Banned

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    After nearly a year of posting here, I was banned last week for no reason whatsoever. I've combed my recent posts for any infraction of the rules and have found none (at least nothing comparable to the things that others post and get away with).

    The only conclusion that I can reach is the moderators dislike my opinions and/or the way I present them. Perhaps I'm a bit caustic at times (which I make no apologies for) but certainly no more than many other posters who have not been banned. I'm sure you could find some excuse to ban me if you looked back over my thousands of posts, but I'm equally sure that the same is true for almost every poster here. As far as I'm concerned whether or not you agree with my views is irrelevant. You know perfectly well that I offer facts and opinions and generate legitimate discussion without trolling the forums.

    Shame on you, HipForums. If you want to ban people, why don't you ban the people who routinely violate your rules...the spammers, the multi-posters, and the trolls (some of whom, I might add, have NOT been banned even after several months of such posts). And if you're going to ban people merely for expressing their views passionately, then stop calling this a free speech forum.
     
  2. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    If you're using AOL, you may be sharing part of an IP address that belonged to someone else who was banned. Other people here have gotten banned unintentionally.

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  3. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Damn, that sucks Kandahar. I'm not exactly your biggest fan, but still.
     
  4. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Pffft, they'll ban you and not Cyberfly? Gotta love free speech.
     
  5. Wonder Girl

    Wonder Girl rhapsody in pink

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    They don't offer an explanation of why you're banned? I haven't been here long,not been banned..so I have no idea what happens when a member gets banned. That's messed up,if you did nothing wrong.
     
  6. I'd investigate the aol front but if that's a dead end that truly sucks.... you should be able to defend your soap box as long as you're not gibbering mindless idiocy, if you have a point you should be allowed to make it.....
     
  7. fog_brain

    fog_brain Member

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    I read the America Attacks! forum on occasion (can't post there yet), and I'm thinking it may have been this:

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  8. Pikachu

    Pikachu Member

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    I completley agree with you Kandahar.

    I've been banned several times as well, simply for expressing opinions that are very anti-socialist, anti-communist, anti-far left. And next thing you know...banned.

    So I decided to come up with a completly retarded name like "Pikachu" just to throw people off, and i've been fine...so far. I'll probably be banned for this post though.

    Oh, and the LAST thing you want to do is criticize a Moderator, especially Skip.
    Skip can't take criticism too well, and loves to push the ban button.

    And to fog_brain,
    That post was in response to a bunch of people, who actually are batshit insane.

    Taken in context, they were trying to argue the fact that Bill Clinton and the Bush family were a group of shape shifting, time travelling lizards.

    I'll let you make your own judgment on the mental health of those posters.
     
  9. fog_brain

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    Nevertheless, saying that they're insane is not a valid argument, and I believe it constitutes flaming. If their beliefs are so utterly insane, then surely, he can easily debunk them without resorting to personal attacks?
     
  10. Pikachu

    Pikachu Member

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    If I had a nickel for everytime some far-left commie apologist called me a cuntfaced motherfucker, or told to me "fuck off and die" in these forums, i would be a billionaire.

    And yet, they never seem to get banned.

    Besides, how can you even present a logical argument to somebody who actually believes that Bush & Clinton are a pair of reptilian shapeshifting time travellers? C'mon man. Those kinds of people are beyond any kind of reason or logic, and therefore, by definition, are batshit insane.
     
  11. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    What is it all the conservatives come over here and say about us? If you don't like it then why don't you leave....yeah, that's it...

    I can see why people like Pikachu get banned, he can't seem to say anything without being a complete ass about it. Kandahar though, I didn't see anything that struck me as disrespectful really. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. Maybe they should come up with a new way of banning people, by letting them know who banned you and for what reason. Could be something to add to the suggestions forum...
     
  12. fog_brain

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    I have no context by which to judge your assertions, so the situational variables may differ entirely. You may have been purposefully abrasive, for instance-- whereas, in the thread I supplied, there was no such abrasiveness on the part of the originator.

    While the idea of shape-shifting time-travelling reptilians usurping positions of power on Earth and enslaving all of humanity for nefariously foul ends in order to bring about the collapse of all we hold dear may seem highly questionable-- by what mechanism do we filter-out which ideas deserve a logical and rational discussion, and which do not?
     
  13. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    I have a feeling I'll grow to like you, fog_brain.
     
  14. Pikachu

    Pikachu Member

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    Because it's fun to watch you blow up when you take this political bullshit way to seriously.
     
  15. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    So then why complain when you get the reaction you are looking for?
     
  16. Million_$$$_Nigger

    Million_$$$_Nigger Banned

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    Slutter, you da man.
     
  17. fog_brain

    fog_brain Member

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    So, you assume that it was an unnecessary demonstration; a pretentious display of linguistical masturbation intended to obfuscate the issue, and intimidate potential opponents? Well, if so, your assumption would be correct. It most certainly was, as is this post itself. I derive a considerable amount of enjoyment writing like this, because it is so mind-gratingly obnoxious to people, and that makes me laugh.

    (It was "situational variables", wasn't it? lol, I laughed at that one when I wrote it)

    Nevertheless, I fail to see how an attack on my argumentative style invalidates my previous statements. Your utter contempt for reasonable debate has been noted.
     
  18. gEo_tehaD_returns

    gEo_tehaD_returns Senior Member

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    [​IMG]

    This is the "evidence" that "proves" that clinton is a lizard. Shady spots on his face. I think thats more than enough to debunk their claims and defend Kandahar's "batshit insane" comment.
     
  19. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Kandahar:

    You were banned for posting under multiple usernames in the same threads, a violation of the forum guidelines.

    http://www.hipforums.com/forumguidelines.htm

    Your other nick (Shakezulla) was banned permanently. Your ban was set for 30 days. If you re-register ANOTHER account in order to circumvent the temporary ban, it will become PERMANENT.

    Hope to see you around again in 30 days, and NO SOONER.

    BTW, the same goes for Pikachu and "Million $$$ ******". :)
     
  20. gEo_tehaD_returns

    gEo_tehaD_returns Senior Member

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    Haha, thats funny. Kandahar's profile says he's liberal. His alter ego, according to its profile and posts, is conservative. what the hell?

    one of Shakezulla's posts was nothing but like two pages insulting cyberfly. I enjoyed reading that one.
     
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