What animal foods do you eat? I remember when I started out, I told myself I was only going to be vegetarian, but then when I read those ingredient lists, I felt that there wasn't really a difference at all between eating a hamburger or eating chocolate chips or anything that contained animal fat or anything from animals, and found myself going vegan rather quickly. Sooo..?
Well I only turned vegetarian a month ago so I think for me it is better to start out smaller. I imediatly stopped eating meat of any kind and I switched to soy and rice milk. I can't eat eggs by themselves or drink a glass of milk (cause it now grosses me out) but I do eat things with milk or eggs in them already since I still live under my parents roof and at times its hard cause they won't eat what I do. I think cheese is the only thing that I have to cut out to be vegan. Do flour tortillas have milk/eggs in them?
I don't know, but you should try making your own, its fun! No milk or eggs in the ones I make, I dunno about store-bought kinds. These are what I make, however I don't put nearly that same amount of shortening in there. http://www.lasculturas.com/lib/rcp/rcp0027.htm
I started out lacto ovo veggie, but I'm begining to cut eggs out of my diet because they make me sick. I feel like I'm still eating an animal...a dead fetus. It actually makes me completely nauseous now. So I'm slowly working away from it. I dunno if I'd cut out dairy completely though..
Eggs and dairy...though not even that much of those. And if at all possible, they are organic and free-range/cage-free...and in the case of cheese, rennetless.
they don't always list animal ingredients in foods.. as animal products. so you might think you're doing good by not eating the obvious, ( like i thought) but you're still eating animals. best thing to do it reseach. read labels and understand what it says. i try not to eat anything that i'm not sure about. i also just bought a book that list all names for animal ingredients in things we buy. "Animal ingredients A to Z" compiled by the E.G. smith collective. 8 bucks on amazon.com or just don't eat anything processed. they do sneak a lot of animal products in other things though. soaps, toothpaste, cleaners ect.
I eat eggs (they are not dead fetusses, since eggs are usually not fertilized, I know it's a disgusting comparison, but an unfertilized egg is the same as the eggcell that comes out of a women during her period, I had only female birds, they lay "empty" (= nothing to come out) eggs every once in a while. Then I eat dairy. And all plant stuff. I don't eat gelatine, it's disgusting. And I don't eat things that contain animal fat. And here in germany the ingredients lists are very accurate. And I try to avoid processed food as much as possible.
i've never liked milk or eggs anyway so i still don't eat that, however i do eat cheese (rennetless though) but like the cheese, i eat things that contain milk and eggs.......I am making the transition from veg to vegan in the next year.
i sorda agree with you dude, a lot of shit has a lot of animal products in it that arent necessary at all. for example, when i was just a vegetarian, i would eat this one brand of rice a lot, but when i went vegan and looked at the ingredients, i discovered it actually had chicken fat and byproduct in it as well as bacon something or other but i was not even paying attention to what i was eating since it didnt obviously have animal in it. its not like being vegan is really hard, or at least MOSTLY vegan, i admit sometimes i do eat stuff with dairy in them if their about to go bad or get thrown away or something, but very rarely and i always always avoid any animal ingredient in something im buying for myself, whey, caseine, etc etc..once i even made a milkshake with soy ice cream and soymilk and some regular milk which i was sordove surprised i could even bring myself to do when my mom said our milk was 'going bad', she is terrible about that kind of stuff. anyway i think its more disrespectul to waste something you steal from an animal and just throw it away. like people who replace leather seats with fake leather in their car after they go vegan, i dont get that...and what else do you propose we do with the billions of cow hides we create a year? and yes vegan tortillas exist, bread and tortillas are very simple things really, you shouldnt be buying ones at the store with like 20 ingredients in them, somehow that doesnt seem right...
although i would love to be vegan i have to work up to that, eating healthier and saving some money, becuase it isn't easy for those of us who don't have the funs to spend in the health food stores. the only thing that bugs me is that veganism sort of leads into consumerism.. not always, but sometimes.
I'm curious. How so? I always thought of it the other way around since most non-vegans buy whatever there is a commercial for or see on a billboard without thinking about what's in it or who made it. I think vegans are much more thoughtful about what they purchase and how much they purchase. I thought they would be the ones most likely to "live simply so that others may simply live." Maybe I just don't understand what you meant from lack of sleepy time....zzzzzzzzzzzzz