First trial with Bk-MBDB (Butylone)

t 0:00
6:40pm
Took 150mg Butylone (Bk-MBDB) orally by parachuting in one layer of tissue. This is my first experience with this compound. I experimented with Methylone last night and hope that there is not much of a tolerance. I don't expect there to be as yesterday's experience didn't seem to use up near the neurotransmitters that a typical MDMA session would. I intend to combine the two this weekend or next week so I am attempting to determine a base for both of them. Same as yesterday, i have just quit smoking cigs so that may influence this somewhat by adding a little more tension as I usually love smoking on stimulants or basically any drug.

t +20mins
7:00pm
Possibly first alerts. Plan on using 50mg booster at 1 hour mark. I already weighed it out sober.

t +30mins
7:10pm
Some stimulation. I am finding reading and typing easier like on a small dose of adderall. I feel very concentrated and centered.

t +40mins
7:20pm
Stimulation is increasing and some euphoria is beginning to show. My vision seems very focused and am following what's on tv and typing this at the same time. Effects similar to the comeup of adderall so far.

t +50mins
7:30pm
Decided to parachute remaining 50mg booster. Feel that I am still coming up. Stimulation hasn't increased greatly over last time but euphoria has increased. Typing, etc is still coming very naturally. I may write 2 emails that I've been putting off for a while.

t +1 hour 10 min
7:50pm
So far, I definately prefer Methylone over this by themselves but can see how, when combined, Butylone could add to the experience and more closely resemble an MDMA experience. So far it resembles taking 15mg of adderall to my 225mg Methylone experience from last night.

t +1 hour 20min
8:00pm
I seem to feel the booster kicking in as a just noticed a slight step-up in stimulaiton and euphoria. Resembles Methylone only slightly now, but still think the combination of the two would complement each other.

t +1 hour 50min
8:30
Seems to have peaked within the last 30 mins. Still not as good as Methylone experience. About to smoke the first bowl of the night to see what marijuana can add to the experience. Slightly jittery and jumpy as I'm typing.

t +2 hours 30min
9:10
Did a couple of balloons after smoking a bowl of good bud. Psychedelic nature of nitrous is enhanced with many stronger psychs, but not to the same degree. It is fun though! AND I feel like some other people, that nitrous (especially with psychs), has something important there that I just can't put my finger on or come to some epiphany and immediately forgotten in. Maybe this is just my inexperience with disasociatives. I have no desire to try DXM and PCP, but think I may have a K source, for the first time. I'll be able to determine if it's the disassociative effects that are intriguing me or something unique to nitrous.

t +3 hours 30min
10:10pm
The last hour has been much more psychedelic than anticipated after the addition of a couple hits of nitrous.

t +4 hours 50min
11:30pm
i have spent entire time, since the last entry, feeling like going backward even though time seemed to progress normally , ex. time on computer and tv. My movements seem to be impelled by something other than myself. Weird movement of mouth which seems to coincide with the feeling of going backward. I know that i'm not though. There is a distinct sense of dejavu.

t +5 hours 5min
11:45pm
I can concentrate and stop if from moving, the sensation of going backward and my mouth, but when I relax the feeling resumes and my mouth starts moving again.

t +6 hours 20min
1:00am
It's 1 now and I'm still awake.



I would only consider up until the 8:30 entry, the true Butylone report. After that it just got wierd, but I read today that one nicotine withdrawal symptom is time dilation, and I still have jaw clenching today which could have worked with the nitrous and possibly butylone to create a really weird experience.


It's 24 hours later now and I just got home from work and am about to fall asleep. Got really shitty sleep last night. I blame the nicotine withdrawal more so than the Butylone, however I didn't find it that unque, or worthwhile on it's own. I still think that it would mix very well with Methylone and plan to do that this or next weekend.

 

Sounds kind of lame.....

I heard that is was nothing in comparison to meph and methylone. On a scale, what would you give each one? This one sounds like its worth like a 5 or 6 out of 10. Maybe up the dosage? Are you going to try snorting it? That might help?

 

I haven't had Meph yet. I could see an increase in dosage being better. I would give it a 5, Methylone a 7, with a good dose of MDMA being a 10. I probably will increase the dosage/switch ROA for both before I run out, but I'm most interested in trying a combo of the two. Maybe 140mg M1 and 70mg B1 to start, with a booster in similar ratio around the hour mark.

 

I finally got around to trying the Methylone/Butylone combo in varying doses. Like you, I thought it would enhance the experience and maybe make it more MDMA like. This did not happen, it just felt speedier with a different headspace, it killed all the empathogenic qualities that I like about Methylone. Did nothing for duration either. I much prefer Methylone by itself, but I would still like to combine it with maybe 2c-c.

YMMV.

 

What do you think about Methylone and a smallish dose of 2c-i?

 

I know what you mean. I have had these HUGE realizations on nitrous. Like really important revalations about "something" but when I come down it is completely forgotten.

 

Maybe it's because you emerged with fewer braincells after the trip? :cheers2: That's nitrous for you

 

Yeah I havent done it much at all. I know some people who do it EVERYTIME they trip. I always thought it was just as bad as dust off.

 

No, nitrous is a real drug. Dust off is not. Please don't equate nitrous and dust off.

I use neither...

 

Nitrous isn't neurotoxic, they've done studies where mice breathed in something like 30% oxygen, 70% nitrous for hours at a time, and there was no brain damage.

 

I'm with these guys. Nitrous is nothing like dustoff or they wouldn't use it in dentist's offices, etc. I haven't done much of it either. Only times I had it, before the last couple of months, were one baloon after a show.