A few days ago I tried 4-HO-MET and fell in love. The chemical gave me a surging euphoria and a dashing visual psychedelia. Even though it wasn't very deep or insightful I fucking loved it, easily one of my top 3 trips of all time. Naturally this has got me really interested in tryptamines. I'm looking over the common tryptamines and all the information is bit much, what do you guys recommend?
had you never tried a tryptamine before? i've only tried shrooms, 4-aco-dmt, and N,N-DMT. i think i like 4-aces better than mushrooms. DMT is pretty amazing too, but it's hard to do right. i'm not so familiar with it (or any tryptamines for that matter).
I tried mushrooms before but only 3g of low quality stuff. This really was the first full blown typtamine experience I've had. DMT sounds incredibly interesting but I don't think I'm ready for it. I'm unsure if I would even like it to be honest. Taking a 10min shotgun blast of psychedelia seems too immersed for my liking.
do you know what your dose of 4-ho-met was? DMT hasn't really been THAT intense for me. but i haven't broken through either. don't get me wrong, it is definitely strong, but not quite a shotgun blast. it's strong AND sort of relaxing/warm/welcoming
I read Tryptamine Palace (Oroc) from MAPS a few weeks ago - amaaazing. I don't know anyone who has used 5-meo-dmt. I'd enjoy hearing about your experiences.
I read some of Tryptamine Palance, primarily the segments of Oroc's accounts of his 5-meo-dmt trips and found it interesting. I tried 5-meo-dmt once but somewhat carelessly on my part I had my friend, who is an experienced psychonaut, weigh it and I didn't ask him what the dose was, this was before I had tried N-N DMT. So I took 3 pretty good tokes of it and the last one was really deep, I don't know if we were supposed to split the bowl or not but when I was done hitting it my friend said "HOLY SHIT!" and then ran out the room and let me trip. I had enough time to sort of sit back but it got on top of me really quick, a lot of black and white spinning checkerboard type fractals came rushing up on me and I felt dazed off it. I got propelled through those fractals into a void type space, that was kind of like a life "flash" before my eyes type experience. My mind's eye felt almost underwater or something in like a psychedelic purgatory and one of the reasons I probably will never explore it again is unlike my experiences with DMT I felt more of an irregular breathing in between the eons of 5-meo-dmt time. Coming off of it was quite joyous though, there was a moment where I felt time at a stand still and this vast stellar twinkling in my mind's eye seemed to encompass galaxies. But I felt like that trip shocked my system and I had some lingering issues for a few weeks after that trip, granted I was using other drugs with in that timeframe as well.
I have used it several times, a non breakthrough experience is like GB explained. Or you can pass over and you and your inner self comes through the trip. You will recover true realization on any subject matter that is most important in your life. It is the most intense psychedelic I have done. I have also done some personal research with people who are X junkies. Maybe when I have some time I will write about it, the outcome of their experiences were extremely interesting. It's something I am going to continue to do with subjects that I come across that will participate.
HAHA... a non breakthrough what a load of bull Octopus. I'm guessing I had ~30 + mgs from what I have read, and certainly provided a much more detailed description than you. Even Oroc who wrote the book suggest 1 hit is enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pNIFmVhYY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pNIFmVhYY To be honest, X has probably helped me deal with the negative effects from that 5-meo-dmt trip and given me the courage to regroup after that and face DMT.
I'm sorry you've had a bad 5-meo-dmt trip and decided to neg rep me. I don't have all day on the Internet to write out detailed posts all the time. That's why I said I'd write something up when I had time. You have no idea about me or me experiences. Talk about a internet bully in effect.
I have never done 5-meo-dmt but only n,n-dmt which one time I smoked it I was reborn with love, and once I received some sort of gift from an entity....pretty intense trippin' if. you ask me.
Fair enough, we can say you have no idea about me or my experiences as well... I actually found the 5-meo-dmt trip itself interesting, I didn't respond well to the fallout of the trip/physical effects. I prefer DMT, its got a grace to it that 5-meo-dmt lacks and I find it more overtly visual and wonderous. It can be incredibly intense in its own right and doesn't feel like its quite a shock to the autonomic system as high dose 5-meo-dmt.
So because your preference is dmt and mine is 5-meo-dmt you neg repped me?!? So when I feel that you like a drug I don't I should neg rep you huh? I see how you are. I know I don't know anything about you, but I didn't go and do dumb Internet douche bag moves on you. Dumbass. I use dmt and 5-meo-dmt to explore my inner self and as a tool to get a state of understanding of me, my life, my past and future. dmt lacks the intensity and I do not have the therapeutic value that I seek when I do 5-meo. Dmt I do at festivals and with other people, 5-meo-dmt I use at home and alone for self exploration. Isn't the question of this thread "favorite tryptamine"? Am I not allowed to express how I feel about the chemicals that I prefer? Do we not have freedom of speech?! Sounds like you are the HF police. Obviously you have not learned much from psychedelics or life if you are bullying people you didn't even give the time of day to get to know before bashing them with negative rep. We could have easily had a conversation here about how you feel about what I feel. Now you will always be a dumbass and a douche bag through my eyes.
I neg repped you for suggesting that more than 3 large hits of 5-meo-dmt is needed for a breakthrough. I believe one need not smoke so much to pass out or have a seizure and land themselves in the ER to experience a breakthrough, and so I think your information is reckless. I supplied EVIDENCE supporting my position with that James Oroc video who has written a quality book and given many discussions on 5-meo-dmt and therefore an authortative figure on the matter.
I each his own, you can read all the books you want. I was speaking out of experience. If you don't breakthrough on the first hit, hit it again. It's that simple, no need to get all pissed off because that is my preference. It works well for me and everyone I have done it with.