fasting.........

if every body, once every 4weeks should have one day with only water (no eating, or others drinks than water), this would be good for :

-less consomtion of food, better for environmnent
- less shitting (+ for envirionment)
-when you are fasting, you are tired, you dont have the energy to go
consuming, partying, driving around.... You stay at home and nurse you head ache, cravings, hunger and emotional up and downs....

this is not written as a joke. reflect on this and try it out.

 

no thanks

 

I do this once a week

 

The whole world can't just stop every month.

 

Good idea, but the reasons you list, aren't really the general practical reasons for fasting.

The #1 reason for fasting, is religious. Fasting is a way for Christians to seek to be in better contact with God, and for praying better for other people. When Christians fast, we identity better with people who don't have enough to eat, and care more about their plight.

It is doubtful that fasting results in less food consumption, as if as most healthy people do, one does not fast excessively, they probably "compensate" for lost food or calories, generally in their other meals when they do eat.

A second reason for periodic fasting, not excessive of course, is for suspected health reasons. As I hear, experiments on animals show that a more lean diet, results in better health and longer life, than typical overeating.

And then of course, fasting should be voluntary. Not something "demanded" of people. I would hardly suggest that people in nursing homes or in prison, should be denied meals so that they have to fast. Actually, didn't I hear than in ancient Rome, they didn't feed people in prison at all? If a prisoner lived, it's because family members would come and feed them.

You suggest less poop would be an advantage. I seriously doubt that. I hardly think that some waste water treatment plant, would breathe a sigh of relief at slightly less waste water. We have the technology means to deal with it, and the cost of water treatment and trash disposal is trivial, compared to the immeasurable sacred value of each and every human life. Rather, I suggest that if people would go do some exercise and find something else to do than feed their face all day, and cut down on the worldwide obesity pandemic, that would be somewhat more relevant than the idea of fasting, to that.

And then, what about reducing the pet population, as pets generally don't use toilets? (And since God gave people dominion over nature and other creatures, humans would seem to have the practical authority to regulate animal populations, but not at all the human population, as such things must be morally done, by "a higher power." For animals, humans will do, for humans, it's up to God, the same God who specifically commanded people to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. And humans can't be "above" other humans, lest that be racism or idolatry.) I heard some news blurb, that China is now also limiting families to 1 dog. Good suggestion maybe, but another "bad" law. That's adding insult to injury, when there is no excuse for trying to limit families to 1 child. Why should people respect "the law," when the law doesn't even serve or protect them, but serves to oppress them? Yeah, why should a family need more dogs, as dogs don't have sacred value like human lives do? But neither should the government meddle in that either. Since generally, most pets do little or no work, and cost people money to own, why can't just 1 dog at a time, be enough? But then some people, concerned about pets, may suggest that people adopt more pets, so that the surplus stray pet population not be "put to sleep."

I would like for people to do less partying and driving around. Why must people be so materialistic and hedonistic? This isn't the world or life for just seeking pleasure for pleasure's sake. What about other people? What about needed political reforms? What about combatting error and promoting truth? But probably some people don't need to be fasting while having to drive somewhere. It wouldn't necessary help with their impatient, careless driving attitude, to be craving food too. I prefer to be more alone, when fasting, or at least not at work. I don't want for people to be making their productivity opinions about me, when I am at any apparent temporary disadvantage, such as fasting. I would rather be around good smelling food when fasting, than around people who might be difficult to deal with. And to be alone while fasting, is also consistant with that "seeking God" thing I mentioned previously.

Fasting may also help people to be less hedonistic and less materialistic. Denying the lusts of the flesh, can be a good and religious thing, at least some of the time. We shouldn't be ruled too much by our "animalistic" passions. Especially if we are supposedly to be a "civilized" society.

I am glad to see people thinking creatively about such things, but think some more. The reasons you list, really aren't the best or general reasons most people have for fasting.

 

The supposed benefits that the original thread poster suggested, presumably wouldn't require that "the whole world" fast. Although I notice that the poster did use the word "everybody."

If fasting would help feed all the more people, that too could be a good reason to fast, but that really isn't the issue with food. The world already produces plenty of food to feed the entire world, but rather, it's an economic, political, sin problem. In times of famine, people with money can buy food, but what are the poor then to do? The poor don't have enough options to deal so well with the bad times.

And like I said, fasting should be voluntary, and mainly for religious reasons, so I would hardly expect for the "whole world" to fast.

 

I fast whenever I feel that I need to. I don't ever feel weak or tired when I do it, I feel good. Like my body is detoxing.

 

People would be doing good, just to abstain from buying stuff, for just 1 measly day. If we could convince people to do that, that would be a great start. And the idea shouldn't be so much, to not have stuff or to eliminate people's jobs, by not buying, but to protest the unjust income tax that most people should never have been subjected to, and so I suggested April 15th as the obvious day. Sunday should be a day of rest or worship, or to visit family and friends, and so every Sunday should be Buy Nothing or Buy Little Day.

A related problem, is that people don't save enough money for the future or for emergencies, which is just another reason not to buy so much unnecessary junk, or at least delay purchases until they are needed more, until the technology progresses more, or until one can more easily pay "cash" rather than credit. One can save a lot of money by buying furniture used, or waiting to acquire it from family or inheritance. I once had a "bookcase" I made out of free trash. Some old shelving display thrown out at some store. I didn't have the frame to anchor the shelves into, so I tied it together with rope or shoe strings and used diagonal bracing to hold it together and set it up on 4 bricks for feet. It worked for years, but I tossed it back out to the dumpster when I moved, because it probably would have warped, and it was too "junky" to be worth moving. Soon I had better quality shelves after moving from my old apartment into a house with a lot more square footage.

As I have heard, the young crowd thinks they need right away, what their parents took 30 years to accumulate. No wonder people have so many problems with credit?

What I meant about "until the technology progresses" more, I give as an example, my pattern in buying video games. I jumped all the way from the original NES Nintendo Entertainment System I bought at a yardsale, to a new Sony Playstation 2. That's quite a gap of skipped video game consoles. I bought many Playstation 1 games, even though I never had a Playstation 1. I like many of the old games, that weren't remade for PS2, as a game should be fun, not just have great graphics, and the PS2 will also play PS1 games. I also bought PS2 games. To buy every new video game console that comes along, why that's rather like buying a $200 or a $600 video game. What money will I have for games, if I have to turn around and spend it all on another console? Why not buy games for the fairly "universal" console I have already? Oh but the Playstation 3 is more "universal" than the PS2? Not really, because $60 PS3 games and Blu-ray DVDs aren't affordable nor practical, well at least not until the title selection broadens and prices drop quite a lot more.

 

My point was, (people dont seem to get here....) if you eat less, then you will shit less, you will consume less. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to understand the basic of (what goes inside, what comes out)

fasting=
less consumtion
more selfreflection=less stress= less consumtion

Tt's the opposite of an evil circle. You start entering a good, positive circle.

Religion has not a patent on fasting. animal fast when they are sick. And we have sick habits (consuming habits etc. We are restless, need to shop, drive around. We are full of stress. Like children. )

 

Yeah, I think most Americans shop too much, buy too much, and are too busy. Why can't people sit at home more and live at least somewhat more simply? We could choose to live with less stress, and still enjoy the modern technology that really works for us, as opposed to merely paying montly fees for more crap on TV.

But fasting usually is for "religious" reasons, and most religions also advocate childbearing/possible-big-families, as each and every human life is sacred. Now last time I figured, more people=more poop=more need for more of the world to have modern toilets. So much for consuming less. We really need to produce more.

 

fasting causes diahrea (especially if youre drinking nothing but water) and if you smoke pot during fasting you may start throwing up. not a good thing.

 

I never had such symptoms while fasting, that I can recall. Nothing other than the predictable somewhat ignorable hunger, and not feeling particularly energetic which would matter if trying to do "productive" work, rather than merely reading, hanging around the home, and paying bills or whatever. Perhaps it's because I don't smoke pot, don't drink, don't smoke, and avoid other similar stupid or bad habits.

 

^^well i fasted for 3 days straight and on the 3rd day i started to have diahrea. and i've only heard about the smoking pot and throwing up from fasting from my friend. she smokes pot and she was fasting with me and she started throwing up. but i dunno

 

^ B) excuse me?

 

sorry. but i just dont really understnad B

 

I think she means that people often fast to cleanse their bodies, putting lots of crap into your body by smoking doesn't help

 

okay.