Fake Environmetalists!

I'm really tired when I hear people claiming that they are environmentalists when they clearly are not. An environmentalist is any person who advocates or works to protect the air, water, animals, plants, and other natural resources from pollution or its effects (www.dictionary.com). People put convience in front of what is best for the environment.I understand that some things are out of your control. For an example, not everyone can afford to convert their car to running off of veggie oil. Lets face it, cars are very important. Yes, one can use public transportation, but in some areas there is little to no transportation. There are small things that you can do that can help Mama Gaia out tremendiously.

People truely think that throw away items are needed on a daily basis. Some even believe that there are certain throw away items that can not be replaced with things that are reusable. The two biggest things that are such a waste of resources are DISPOSABLE DIAPERS and FEMALE MENSTRAL PRODUCTS! It pisses me off when I hear people claiming that they are environmentalists and use these products. Well, instead of using disposable diapers use clothe ones. Not only will you be helping out the environment, but you will be saving lots of money. I'm not a mama, but I know for sure those things can cost a lot. For those who say that clothe diapers are not clean are stupid. You don't throw the shit in the washer machine. Instead, you dispose it properly and wash the diapers in the washer machine in bleach by themselves.My mom was capable of doing it with all four of her children and I know other mamas who use clothe diapers. As for female menstral products, use a diva cup or something like it. Females can use 6 tanpons or pads in a day. Times that by 7 because a period usually lasts for a week. Then times that by 12 months. That is only one person. Just think about the amount of wasted product that females in this world use. Plus, how much money you waste.You can get a divacup here www.divacup.com . Educate yourself!

The biggest issue that I have about people who claim to be environmentalists is that some eat meat! You can NOT be an environmentalist if you eat meat because for one reason is because most animals are pumped with hormones so that they are abnormally huge! Hormones can not be filtered out in the body or even filtering systems. The animals piss on the ground and the hormones are dispursed into the soil and will affect the ecosystem.Notice why 8 year old girls have full grown boobs? Well it's because of this and the hormonal birth control that people use. Also, animals require large areas to graze, so trees have to be cut down.When one does kill an animal for food they typically do not use the entire animal, so it becomes a very wasteful process.

I can go on and on, but really all it comes down to is evaluating what you are doing before you claim to be something you are not. All I ask is if you are an environmentalist, then live up to it and change the little things that you do from day to day. Recycle, Reuse, and Respect Mama Gaia because truely we are only harming ourselves and our children. I wish that everyone could be environmentally friendly, but that is not realistic. I just ask if you just make minor adjustments to your everyday life because they may seem small, but in the end they add up!

Peace + Love

 

You didn't mention it but the veggies you eat should be bought locally. This'll help to decrease the amount of CO2 produced just for you to receive your food. Try to teach your message instead of telling them why you're so right. Even when you know you are right.

 

How about anybody that buys a new house since about 1/2 of all trees cut go to building them (single biggest use of wood in the U.S.)? Or how about anyone that has children since humans are the #1 enemy of the environment? Or pretty much anyone that eats anything that was grown (plant or animal) in a non-sustainable manner. I don't think it matters much if they eat meat or not, modern commercial agriculture (both plant and animal) have a vast negative impact. You could argue one is better then the other but they are both bad, if not done in a sustainable manner. Hormones are used on plants and in orchards as well. Sorry I maybe getting sarcastic.

 

i can not sit and go on and on. I just don't have the time for that. I'd write a book at that rate. My point was the little things that are avoidable.

 

Fuckin hell... i doubt anybody would live up to your standards.

 

Go bumble, i say

As for whoever said "what about people who buy a new house?" I DO NOT AGREE with the building of new houses. Not here in Europe, anyway. I cant say what its like in America or elsewhere but in Europe i can tell you there here TONS of empty, disused buildings, just sitting there going rotten and taking up space and materials. Yes, itd cost a little more, but renovating these buildings would be so much better for this planet

It crushes my soul every time i see one of those bloody new housing estate development things. Those cheap, square ready-made villages EST. 2006

There IS a better way. I have only ever lived in houses over 50 years old

Admittedly, im a disposable sanitary towel user. Im deeply ashamed of this. But im in the process of researching alternative methods. My time recently has been spent learning how to be a good Vegan. This sanitary towel problem is the next thing on my list

RE: the eating of animals, youre 100 percent right. Go bumble!

 

I think bumble was pointing out some of the biggest issues though, things that have a pretty huge effect. Like she said the number of sanitary towels must be massive. And of course meateating causes huge destruction.

I agree there must be limits and we cant make our cause look too uptight. But these are things which make a massive difference and should be changed

 

Aw Bumble,
I just don't think that it is all that cut and dried. People spouting their environmentalism while telling people that they can't possibly be one because they do (insert bad thing here) really is not a positive approach to take.

We all use and take from the mother and we all leave our waste behind. Our footprints are here and we all rely on the earth for our lives. Some might recycle, walk every where, but eat meat. Some vegans eat processed veggie foods, wrapped in plastic packaging, trucked many miles from five states away. We should not judge those who we see not as fit an environmentalist as ourselves.

I think my chickens I raise and kill myself are better for the environment that any product trucked in. There are also sources that commercially produce meat without hormones.

I kill trees for heat, cooking and building. Is that worse than flipping the switch and letting the power or gas company do it for you.

If we all do what we can we will make the earth a much better place. If we show our brothers and sisters love and kindness instead of condemnation over what they are not doing, engage in informative dialogue, and try to work together we may just make a difference. No one wants to be told how crappy of an environmentalist they are when they are trying.

In all my years trying to live in one with the earth, in being an imperfect environmentalist, I've found those with holier than thou attitudes could be some of the most shortsighted folks around.

Peace and Love

 

The disposing of all old computers does not help. I don't see anyone opting not to use them!

No one can be 100% enviro-living people.

 

Sure you can, but you could never find one on this website...or any website for that matter, because those people are living out in the forest somewhere living off the land

 

my b/f fixes old computers and donates them to schools in Africa. e-mail me at bumblecanfly@yahoo.com and let me know if you have a computer to get rid of and we'll take care of it.

DancerAnnie, you are completely right! There are people who do live off the land!

I brought up this topic in order for people to notice the little things that they can do to help the environment on an everyday basis. People bring convience into their lives instead of being environmentally friendly. Yes, I do things that affect the environment, but at this time in my life i have to do these things. I'm a social worker and my job requires me to drive. Once I get my degree I will live close enough to the school that I will teach at so that I can walk to it.

Thanks for reading my topic.

 

Most people are envirometalist even in small part of their life. I always trying to segregate my trashes, don't use to much water and going around by bus not car. But even when I'm writing this post my computer takes a lot of energy which is made from coal, gas or wood. Only posibility to be absolutely pro-enviromental is build cooper house and eat own grown vegetables or animals, like Zadria write. I think goverments of countries like USA, GB, or other which made a lots of pollutions should start some kind of campagnies and tell people what can happen with Eart for few years. Must people even don't focused on that but maybe somebody change life style and stop be so so self-centred. I hope so...

 

Total BS.

 

No doubt. "I am the only true environmentalist"...lol.

 

Cool. I will actually do a litle re-evaluation of my situation and make some improvements. Your thread will make a difference in my life, and it's impact on our environment.

 

Hi, I'm new to this group! I try to be as environmentally conscious as I can. So that means I am continually learning and practicing new and old ideas in regard to protecting the environment. I have my own little myspace page in which I am trying to get younger people activated to make some changes where they live in WVa. Please visit and give me some ideas on how to get through to them.
www.myspace.com/alleganymaeve and view the top video especially.

I practice organic gardening, and try to eat mostly organic foods grown locally. I have started to expand my knowledge of native plants so that I can eat them.
I have been buying my clothing at Good Will/Salvation Army because they are already made. Buying new clothing uses up resources that could be saved. I no longer purchase soda pops or anything like that because that is a wasteful drink to begin with. Think of the resources that go into making sodas etc. What could be saved energy wise if people just stopped drinking these things? I wish that I had the official numbers of how much energy goes into making 100 plastic soda bottles- 2 liter size. How much to make the soda that goes into them and how much to transport the product, house the product etc. you get the picture. If you know the answer, please share. Water from the tap- better. Water flavored with your own homegrown organic mint- much much better. Maeve

 

:lol:

 

I give props to anyone who does at least a little something to keep the environment clean and happy. I give props to anyone who takes the time out to walk to the trash bin, instead of throwing it out the window. I give props to anyone who carpools, and only uses their car as a means of transportation and not for joy rides. I give props to those who recycle...

I agree with you, somewhat... I think its important for people to really evaluate things...to really take a look at what things they could use in replacement of disposable products and stuff, but I dont think its fair to cut people down that way...

I'm vegetarian, but I don't know if its fair to say that anyone who eats meat isnt an environmentalist... I dont know. So long as people are taking the time out to care, I dont really care about certain criteria as to making them an "environmentalist."

 

I wonder how much carbon it takes to post in these forums. How much it takes to keep a post within a server for many many years ?. Maybe that should have been in random thoughts ?.