English is a gutter language.

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  1. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    it only has one version of the word "or"

    Gutter language.
     
  2. FreshDacre

    FreshDacre Senior Member

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    Yeah I have always thought this. Its one of the hardest languages to learn but then once you know it it's like the easiest and non descriptive. Something like chinese has way more depth to it, they have an enourmous amount of letters and ways of saying things.
     
  3. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    Tonal languages PWN!

    I like the sound of mandarin better than kantonese to be honest though.
     
  4. Gyro Gearloose

    Gyro Gearloose Senior Member

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    Hello,

    it's sad that there is no xor. But that's the same in my native language. And expressing the different kinds of 'free' is a little bit arduous.

    Regards
    Gyro
     
  5. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    indeed....

    those finnish people, they're onto something.
     
  6. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    yes, it's totally inadequate for expressing anything at all
     
  7. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    wow

    a veritable treasure trove of thought
     
  8. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    you mean like "either" or do you mean an endless unnecessary contortions of a variant in spelling of "or" that that have fluid meanings?
     
  9. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    'Nor' count? Lol
    It's rarely used nowadays properly ('or' is used where 'nor' should be in these cases) but is it a different operator with it's own meaning when speaking.
    So hmm, not so guttery anymore? By that logic anyways?
    But if you still wanna call this trash language, be like the real english majors who speak of how it derives from Old English and Anglo saxon times. English really originally was just a grunty-bumpy barbaric gutter language.
     
  10. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    well that seems to be the point. it is a different word with completely different meaning, so i don't see how it would count. but maybe i'm reading the OP wrong.


    i know this is completely beside the point, but there's always "oar." [​IMG]
     
  11. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    yeah english is pretty stupid for no real reason besides everyone else talks it. its not in-depth and descriptive. We hippies need in-depth methods of communication!!
    you should make a new language.

    so to conjure up something: in a more in-depth language, it can have punctuation of some sort to signify different levels of meaning. when talking about god, one can be talking about just how he works and its a level of understanding to reside thought in, when on a higher more complex level, one can be talking further than just how he works. This is because one word is one subject matter. For there to be more depth, there needs to be indication of different subject matter within one word without more lengthy phrases. And that is very well possible considering people live for a very very long time with only learning 36 letters in their language plus punctuation marks. a parallel example of multiple subject matter of one word is like when people 'label' people for being straight, gay, or bi when reality is actually a much more complex thing.
    I believe that if we do not further this language progress we can suffer major disconnection between us and then lead ourselves to destruction of some sort, that or just major mediocrity. When a politician wants to change something in our economy, he/she takes certain concerns in mind, and quite frankly concerns aren't communicated fast or effective enough with this language to be synchronized with.
     
  12. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    The word "queue" is the only word in the English language that is still pronounced the same way when the last four letters are removed.
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Not beside the point, but previously pointed to by guy in #8.
     
  14. thedope

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    I find English to be a profoundly political language. Politic is prudent, displaying
    shrewdness, tact, or cunning. Described as the language of business, its' forms are easily "coined" as it is constantly expanding in dimension and texture.
     
  15. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i should probably read the entire thread before responding, eh? :eek:
     
  16. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    I'm curious as to how many of you actually speak a language other than English. I've heard these criticisms before, but as I don't speak anything else I've never really felt equipped to judge. I think English can be quite deep and descriptive when used properly; the problem is that it rarely is.
     
  17. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    couple years of college spanish, but i would never make the claim that i actually can speak it.

    it was my observation though, that spanish follows a much more logical and consistent set of grammatical rules than english. for the most part anyway; i'm sure every language has its exceptions.
     
  18. thedope

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    I agree. The deal is many speakers are illiterate, or have a functionally deficient vocabulary.
     
  19. fragility-1523

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    The English language used to be expressive... it has become significantly simplified, making it far more difficult to communicate. It seems to be part of the main-stream movement to shorten and simply all words, along with their subsequent meaning and means of expression.
     
  20. thedope

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    Or perhaps, how much more complicated life?
     
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