4-Aco-Dmt: 20mg And a lot of weed 7:00pm - Took the 20mg of 4acodmt, then began smoking a few bowls. Usually 4acodmt kicks in really quickly for me, i have mild hallucinations within the first 10 minutes or less, but this time it took around 40 minutes before i started to hallucinate at all, i'm unsure if this is because of the weed or not. 7:40pm - Just starting to feel the effects now, but they were still very weak, i kept thinking "maybe i should take more" so i was about to take another 20mg if i didn't feel anything significant by 8pm 7:50pm - Hallucinations started to really kick in, so i decided i wouldn't take any more for now. The posters on my walls would get bigger/smaller and the corners of them would flap around a bit, my walls seemed to be moving in and out slightly, my ceiling and carpet began to swarm around like usual (this happens every time) 8:30pm - I started tripping really hard at this point, i would look at my walls and this one Jimi Hendrix poster i have kept melting off my wall but reappearing right after, my walls started to move in closer to me so much that i felt as if my room was a tiny box, my lava lamp kept giving off these massive radiant glows, my TV and computer screen kept expanding until they got so large that i couldn't even look at the entire screen without shifting my eyes. My ceiling also started getting really trippy, usually it just swarms around (it's a stucko ceiling) but this time it started to melt down and i could see massive waves rippling through it as if it were an ocean or some body of water, it also changed into many colors, green, red, purple, etc 9:00pm This part of the trip is really significant and was defiantly the highlight of it all. I was laying there with my eyes closed, having some nice little CEV's and drifting off just enjoying the trip, when suddenly i got this massive shock throughout my entire body and i jolted upwards as my eyes shot open, it was like this maassive burst of energy just entering my body and this came out of nowhere at all! it was completely unexpected and it honestly scared the shit out of me for a second, it entered through my body and then sprung up into my head and i could feel this massive wave of energy just overwhelming my entire body, but this only lasted for a second or two before it vanished. Once it was gone it was as if i completely snapped out of my trip for a few seconds, i was sitting there confused beyond belief wondering what that was, and in my mind it almost felt as if i knew what it was and i was just sooo happy that i got to experience that, it almost felt as if it's what i've been waiting for, it kind of seemed as if it filled my subconscious mind with a bunch of information that i can't recall now unfortinutly, but during the trip i thought i knew what that was and it taught me so much, but the next morning it seemed as if i forgot it all... This then happened again probably 20-30 minutes later, except this time it wasn't as intense but still very shocking and unexpected, except this time it felt as if it came from the side of me and entered that way, it entered one side and came out the other, it felt as if it even nudged me over a little bit due to the strength and power of that energy force entering me. Each time it happened i got little jolts throughout my body and it was a little fightening but at the same time it felt amazing, massive amounts of euphoria came along with these bursts of energy. 9:40pm - at this time i kept snapping in and out of my trip, it was a really weird feeling though, i would be laying there getting caught up in my trip just looking at the amazing hallucinations when all of a sudden i would feel a slight jolt in my body and i would completely snap out of the trip and i felt as if i were dead yet could still see, all hallucinations would stop, i was completely still, didn't breath didn't move didn't do anything, it felt as if the world had just froze, and this feeling would last about 5-10 seconds before i would be suddenly thrown back into the trip and the hallucinations would just snap back instantly. And this would keep happening on and off for probably about 5-6 times over the next hour or so. But it was a really nice feeling, it felt as if i was being reborn? 10:00 - 10:30pm - the trip was starting to get a bit more mild now, i could tell i was slowly coming down, so i decided to put on my headphones and try to get some sleep (i was really tired from the weed, yet couldn't sleep because of the 4acodmt lol) so as i was laying there unable to sleep, i felt as if i were 2 dimensional along with the music, it was like the music had a shape and wasn't only a sound... everytime i closed my eyes i saw the music as this 2D shape that i can't even describe, and i felt as if my body was the same too, as i was laying there in bed i felt completely flat as paper and nothing seemed 3D or real at all. I fell asleep a while after that i'm guessing because i can't recall what happened next, but this was probably my most favorite trip because of that energy experience i had and the whole rebirth thing, i really feel like i gained a lot of subconscious information from this trip, i've felt a little different ever since (this trip happened a few days ago) and i think the weed really made it a lot more intense, this trip was a lot more profound than when i tripped on 40mg even.
Hmm I think thats what they call the rising kundalini.. which is basically your bioenergy be awakened and excited. Interesting how everything would just stop. Nice report!
sounds like a great trip! i haven't experienced anything like those shocks of energy you described. curious if you listened to music during the trip (like 8 and 9 oclock), or not until the end when you put your headphones on? if not..was it mostly silent? how many times have you dosed 4acodmt, and is 40 mg the highest you've went? i was going to caution you that doubling the dose is probably going to make the experience a lot more intense. but i guess you've had experience with that... do you only have it in 20 mg increments? i'm "nervous" to take less than ~30 mg or so, since when i tried 25 mg once it was kinda weak.
It was the first time i had ever experienced those shocks of energy as well, it was really intense and mind blowing, i can't even fully describe the feeling of it. And i did listen to music throughout the entire trip through my sound system but it was relatively quite and on low. But i did hear very loud humming and buzzing noises throughout most of the trip, especially right before and after i got those massive shocks of energy. And this was my third time tripping on 4-aco-dmt, and 40mg was the highest amount i've ever done but i didn't enjoy it too much, i honestly don't remember a single thing from that trip, it's almost as if i just blacked out and forgot it all the next morning. And i did have it all packaged in 20mg doses except i just bought some more recently and have it in 25mg doses now. (This is because i don't have a scale)
I should look into this kundalini thing, i've never heard of it before! But it sounds pretty interesting if that is what that was.
was your first dose 20 mg too? i feel like i remember reading about that trip. did you dose the 40 mg at once, or half initially and half later? aren't you curious of trying ~30 mg or so? that might be more appropriate than 40 mg, but if 20 is enough that's cool. i've tried it 4 times: 25, 33, 45 and 32 mg
Yess my first was 20mg too, i believe i remember you commenting on that one too. And i dosed all 40mg at once, I took the 40mg then decided to go out for a walk but ended up getting extremely nauseous so i ran home and i can't really recall what happened after that. I think it would be better to take 20mg, wait a bit, then another 20mg instead rather than all at once. And yess i'm looking forward to trying higher doses again, but i'm hesitant because the 40mg wasn't too great and i just feel like it's a waste then. Is there any significant difference between 20mg and 25mg?
Great report rtus. This chemical really interests me. One thing that I find particularly peculiar is this buzzing/humming sensation that you talk about. It's something that GB talks about with a high dose trip and I've read some mention of it in a lot of trip reports. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it is very interesting.
Those electric shocks remind me of several 2ce trip reports, I have not experienced anything quite like that on 4-aco-dmt where it's made me jump up but as eatlysergicacid mentioned I have gotten like buzzing effects in my mind. I am surprised you found 20 mgs 4-aco-dmt much more profound than 40 mgs, I'm sure the weed did play a role in that. I've had two 25 mgs trips, one was pretty quality and the other was very underwhelming but like I said I haven't had weed to boost effects.
i find that buzzing/humming pretty interesting as well. can't say that i've experienced it myself, but i've read about it from a few different people. i've never taken 20 mg, so i can't say for sure, but i would guess that 5 mg can make a significant difference in intensity. or that due to set and setting differences, it might not seem to make much of a difference.
I'm unsure if any of you have ever tried astral projection, but that buzzing/humming noise reminds me a lot of that. Just before you are about to astral project you hear loud buzzing/humming sounds and you get this vibration throughout your body, and that's exactly what the buzzing/humming sounded like with 4-aco-dmt except i didn't have to meditate or focus in order to get this feeling, it simply just came on its own, along with some body vibrations which is when i felt that massive burst of energy shortly after. I believe the 40mg wasn't to good due to the nausea, and i can't recall most of the trip for some reason, i just remember laying there trying to fight the trip wishing i haden't taken it to begin with because of how awful i was feeling. But i've learnt to just 'let go' and go with the flow when tripping, which is what i did during this 20mg trip which helped a lot and made it so much better, and i believe the weed did play a huge role with inhancing it as well.
ortus, i just want to make sure that you understand that there is a BIG difference between 20 mg and 40! that's why i suggested trying ~30 mg (or even 25 might be a good step up from 20) if you want to increase the dose. doubling the dose can more-than-double the effects. not to be patronizing if you already knew this
I knew this from reading a lot of trip reports and hearing people say this many times, but i'm unsure then why 40mg didn't seem much different than 20mg to me? The only thing that increased with 40mg was the level of nausea lol Then again, who knows, maybe it was a lot more profound and different, i wouldn't know because i can't recall most of it. But i agree, i think i should try 25-30mg rather than 40 next time.
"letting go" is incredibly integral to the experience. if you are holding on tight at 40mg (hard to imagine now for me but definitely possible) then it can be much, much weaker than letting go at 20mg. Individual trips also vary drastically, even beyond set and setting. Or rather "set" is so much more than just "mood" and things like that, it's your whole LIFE up to that moment of tripping. Maybe that time at 40 you just weren't ready for the full blown ride. But pure numbers wise, 40 is a whole different ballgame from 20. I worked a retail shift on 20mg as a cashier in a busy store. 40 has me laughing out loud at the air because its writing textures with music on my skin . . . or something like that
