Ego Death?

I would appreciate it if anyone could give me a simple definition of ego death, i've read around abitish and can't get a complete take on it, i ask after my first trip last weekend (200 mics) which concluded with a bad trip, i'm just trying to get my head round what happened in its entirerty,
thanks

 

The deconstruction, or complete loss, of everything you have built yourself to be.

 

I suggest you read this thread: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=383609&highlight=Ego+death&f=117

 

You will know it when/if you experience it. If your looking for reasons why you had a "bad" trip you should start with yourself, ego-death is not a bad thing.
Is there a thread where you described your trip, what happened that made it bad? And is the 200mics and estimate? I never know my exact dose.

 

for me it's when you stop wracking your brain during peak experience and relax to the point of letting nothing arise other than what's around you at that moment

 

The only time i had a so called 'bad Trip' was really me taking a deep hard long look at my life as it is now, and as it would be in the future. and it kinda scared me. i was into pills and H for a little while i can safetly say that doing acid gave me the boost i needed to realized that i needed to stop. Acid has taught me so many things about life and myself that i am def not the same person i thought i was 12 years ago. i used to think life was about making money, getting a nice job, having a hot girl, having a nice car. but as you get older you relized that shit doesnt really make you happy. and after about 7 years total with psychedelics (first did shrooms at 16 years old and acid at 20 years old) i have learned to respect things such as nature, other people and there habbits or flaws and use them on self reflection. I constently find my self going out side for just a few mintues to take in the world around me. a blue sky with white puffy clouds will now put a smile on my face when 10 years ago i wouldn't even notice that kinda stuff. I think that acid has aided in my maturity. yet i still feel like there is so much more to be learned after doing the acid. every thing seemed cookie cutter before. now i find life to be more challenging but in a good way. i consistently find myself between the good and evil voices in my head and more and more i have been going with the good side, when i used to just listen to the evil side. wow i didn't mean to write that much but once i got going i couldn't stop. maybe its the k pins, or maybe i just really wanted to express my "ego death" story with you. oh one other thing my ego death "bad trip" was so intense that i actually saw myself die, but i don't know where, why , or how. but i actually envisioned my last few moments while my heart was still beating. I still cant be sure that this is actual real and our dream world is not. i mean whose to say that our waking life is any more real than our dreams. We both live in both worlds. we all NEED sleep so we all need to be in that other world one way or another, Ive got a lot of things i could ramble on about but ill leave it at that. i just hope some one actually reads this and input to me if you have any or all of the same feelings or experiences. Thanks for reading guys.:afro:

 

that was well said and had me welling up inside and moved by such psychedelic pride and then you said 'maybe its the k pins' and it all went away.

 

haha yeah im not strictly a natural drug guy. i am prescribed to k pins so its not like i go out of my way to get them. and i only take up to 1mg a day. i only took one today because i had to train some one at work today and that shit is very stressful when the new guy is going extremely slow! im sure you know how it is

 

@pbjube3
I have had very similar experiences to ours. I too was once doing a lot of H and other opiates, just because i felt the need to 'escape'. Psychedelics turned my life around, taught me to appreciate things like nature, stars, science etc. even when i wasn't tripping. For me psychs are way more than just a way to have a fun time(although they still are), I can't really explain it but its very personal, i truly believe they saved my life.

 

does anyone else think ego death is simply temporary retardation and paralyzation of mind?

 

No I do not think its temporary retardation...

 

^ I have heard people say thats what tripping is... poor fools.

Maybe it is, i cannot say because i have never had my brain activity monitored whilst experiencing ego death. Although if my brain were paralyzed i would think i would die.

I think its more likely an enlightening experience brought on by LSD
Can a lasting feeling of selflessness and compassion be the product of temporary retardation? I choose to say no.

 

how exactly is the mind paralyzed while the mental construct of the ego is inhibited chemically? the mind still flows, in fact much stronger

 

Flush
No more you
All flow

 

couldnt agree with you more, i constantly find myself enjoying nature, stars, space, and deep thought, with or with out psychedelics

 

the link drowl posted has some pretty good information in it.

but ego death isn't really something that can be described very easily. it's like trying to give something form that has no form, or to encompass the infinite. it can't be pinned down to a piece of paper, which is part of what is so beautiful about the interaction of our humanity with psychedelics. it can't just be brought down to a simple answer. we are trained our whole lives in our western world to want to be able to grasp things, something finite, that we can feel, see, touch. well the experience of ego death and ego dissolution is about that which can't be grasped. the infinite.

 

All eggos will end as the toaster becomes obsolete.

 

I'll stick in some controversy: I think opioids provide a type of ego-death/loss at higher doses. Some people just call it nodding off. I think it is much more if you take advantage of it.

I have had some of the most radical shifts in perception, mood, evaluations of things, etc. during these semi-lucid states. It is definitely a scary thing if you aren't expecting it. I welcome the feeling. You really experience something that words can't really describe, as it is, in my opinion, a psychedelic experience.

I know all of the hard core "5-HT2A Agonists ONLY" folks are getting all sickened and shit reading this, but that is just a sign of their immaturity to acknowledge the power of a class of drugs they view as inferior. Perhaps my prompt will come to haunt them the next time they are peaking on LSD. Though, of course, I would never wish them a bad trip.

I had an amazing experience yesterday, where I had some fascinating experiences with my visual perception and time lagging. It was very profound and really made me feel comfortable today.

Try an opioid for entheogenic purposes once. You may be happily surprised!

 

I think this can be attributed to temporary retardation.
I have done more opiates then i really care to admit and IMO you don't get anything close to the feeling the psychs will give you in regards to ego death, or anything else actually. But hey if it works for you then thats cool.