hello everyone. my first post here, i wouldn't know where else to ask this since its hard to find such a gathering of openminded individuals that deal with such weird matters. i'm planning on taking LSD tomorrow (thursday), my first time, with a friend. my question is the effects of LSD on the energy body. i meditate, do energy work all taht stuff. and i'm going on a spiritual retreat friday till tuesday. on saturday or sunday i'll be receiving shaktipat from a guru, which is a kundalini energy transmission through the 3rd eye. since there will only be about 1-2 days to recover from the trip, will that be enough time? i'm not sure about energy depletion but maybe you guys can give me some thoughts. what do you think of my situation? do i have anything to worry about? i planned on using the LSD to prepare for my retreat and want to have some sort of meditative mystical experience..it's just the effects on my energy body/kundalini/chakras that have me a little worried. any thoughts would be appreciated, thank you mikael
You don't have anything to worry about, specially because you are in meditation already. If you meditate on LSD, it is like you saved 5 years of meditation, it takes you automaticaly there. Basicaly LSD is removing the barriers in your mind witch you put there, so when you are meditating, you are also trying through your chakras to open the third eye and let the energy flow through you. LSD is doing that automaticaly, its just that plenty of people are not aware of it, and they try to fight it and they arrest energy in one part of the body and then they suffer. They do not let it flow naturaly. But if you already know how to let energy flow through you, then there is no worries, plus it will show you "new" ways and you will be even more "open" for shaktipat and you will feel more benefit of it. Just go for it and don't warry, and welcome to the family!
The only concern you should have is wether or not your ready for that kind of influence. The shift that occurs when you start raising the kundalini can be overwhelming. Surely, your guru will know what he's doing and will only allow you to receive so much awareness as God works directly through shaktipat. The kundalini is what manifests your consciousness so LSD is going to seem like a vacation once She goes back to Shiva. It is not the effects of LSD on the chakras that is terribly powerful, but the raising of kundalini that is. If your not ready for it, it wont happen, trust me. But being cleansed and sharing in a higher teachers light is always beneficial! Have you received deeksha yet? Or do you just naturally desire God Realization? namaste, Surya -
man shape i wish i knew how to do that. i still have that problem i was talking about with the top of my spinal cord and my brain stem, where it is really warm and it gets tight for the whole trip. kinda discomfortable and definatly puts a damper on things.
i am thinking that because you are a little bit worried and that this is your first trip you may run into some problems but seeing that you are already well on your way with meditation you should be good. if you have a bad trip it could cause problems as you might not be as open as you would have been without the trip. but most likely you will have a wonderful experience that will leave you in a better more open head space. LSD is like meditation but i have heard stories of monks who have meditated all their life who took some acid and had a bad trip or wanted it to end. make sure you are in a good set and setting and have a wonderful trip. it is more likely that the LSD will be good for the whole experience rather than bad for it. but that all depends on you.
thank you everyone for your wise advice. unfortunately my friend didn't come through and i have no other connects maybe next time :]
I think that your problem is that you are thinking of it too much and by doing that you "arrest" energy in your brain and upper spinal cord. Belive me, you can do it and you don't need to think about it, just try to dose yourself and forget that you did it. Don't expect anything, just relax and try to send love all around, try to make your friends tripping more pleasureble, don't even think about yourself. The moment you are thinking of yourself, you are "arresting" energy somewhere, remember, that energy is not for you, it is meant to flow through you. So when you are trying to help others have beautifull night, or to send love to everybody and everything, that energy is flowing. Try to remember that, it is not all about you, God is not your toy, you are his toy!
great advice... you can do the same thing without including others like when you are alone for a while or everyone is in a quiet moment. meditation and the art of letting go. same thing as what shapeshifer said about letting the energy flow through you. but ya, just don't focus on your problem - your problem is your focusing on it. just relax your mind. if you want to try an experiment try focusing on another part of your body and see what happens. see if you can make that tightness happen somewhere else on your body like your hand. when you do this you will see that it is all in your mind - you are making it happen that way. an exercise like this might help you channel your energy better. i have had the same sort of thing as what neodude describes and what shapeshifter says is true - it worked for me to.
I think you'll be fine. I *love* meditating on psychedelics. If I don't, it's like I wasted my time. Live healthy during your recovery time and you'll be fine. Heavy psychedelic use does seem to effect my balanace a little bit, but overall I dont think light use depletes your energy body in a way that cant be easily recovered.
kundalini--i had no idea what that was...then one night i dreamed of a coil at the base of my spine...in the dream it was a smoke coil but electrified. anyway i heard the word 'kundalini' as i woke up and i felt myself completely do a 360 degree turn inside myself. i'm not sure how to describe it. there was a self inside myself and it spun around and i knew life would never be the same again--and it wasn't. it started a whole life change--totally overwhelming and really really trippy!!! within weeks i was camping on shrooms praying to aliens--then that leading to giving away my posessions and going into the wilderness alone for a week and then in seclusion and on a pilgramige for well over a year. sometimes you get moments in life that change your ideas about a thing...but when its kundalini, you change EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING and to some you may seem almost mad. kundalini isn't something i take lightly.
ya... I dont even know if I experienced a full on kundalini awakening, but on my first go of LSD it just went up my spine so strongly that forced me into this yogic pose, didn't even know what the pose was, just did it. Then bam, was out into the void felt l was floating above the universe, with the light, merged with the light, all very very typical of sadhani descriptions, which I read after the experience. It honestly took me a whole month after that to come to grips with what feels like almost, living in a new dimension. Everything does change, like I literally feel like I went on a 180 flip almost in all perception. I can't even imagine something more intense.
You see, it doesn't mean that intensity how you called it will flip you upside down and make you mad. In my expirience, intensity meant more clear picture what is happening, and lasting longer, and reaching certain states of mind more easily. That is what most people don't understand with LSD. But again, you need to be ready for that, in other words, you need to have peace with YOURSELF and than it doesn't matter the dose. It is not like with other drugs where if you take two hits and expect it to be twice strong. Bigger the dose with LSD, different expirience, not necesary intensity.
I just wanted to give a caution here about this subject, I wrote a long post this morning about how on magic mushrooms I felt as if I was being electrocuted for about three hours, it felt like a mix between electric shock, needles, and bleeding to death in every part of my body, but I lost it because during typing it the electricity went out in the whole town :tongue: But anway, be careful because it seems unlikely that you will even have the means to receive that much energy to cause an overload of your system without having first widening the channels for it, but once you start (especially receiving so much energy from a person capable of the transmission), you may end up frying the nadis and burning out your head. After it happened to me I thought that since I was tripping that I had had a seizure and the psychedelics made it seem like it was for hours, then I thought some kind of evil manifested itself in my consciousness and literaly burned me from the inside, but after giving it much thought and stepping over the fear of recalling that pain I've found that it most definitley was the 'subtle' energy, buzzing me into a hard lesson. I promise you, it was far from fun and the only lesson I learned was to never meditate in an area where negative intentions reign supreme on a daily basis. namaste family -
relayer, how far away must you be from 'negative intentions' to not be affected? Like get out of major metropolitan areas?
pppffff let's not be silly Ry, metropolitan areas? Think bigger, much bigger, like the Galaxy! Ok seriously what I meant was where your immediate position is. As lame as the term is, set and setting, is what I meant. Your living room, for example. The trip I mentioned above happened at my last apartment, but only I wasnt exactly living there alone, it belonged to a girl who was in a horrible relationship and they brought the problems all the time. Also the two upstairs neighbors used to be fun fight watching material when your buzzed. Now that I think about it, the entire building was filled with drunks and shallow, material minded people.