economy crashing and food

So it's gonna get quite bad. I think this obvious at this point.

I don't mind having to wander around or live in a cobb house or on a commune when the economy fails. I'm not really worried about jobs or housing at all with failed economy.

What worries me is food. If the economy collapses and imports stop. We are going to run out of food. Starving people untrusting of each other is going to cause some serious problems.

What I'm wondering is, does each state produce enough food, in-state, in order to sustain it's population?

 

Once chaos breaks out and martial law is declared, all food supplies, production and distribution will be under the control of FEMA. Unless people are growing their own food or have a supply stored up in their homes, they're going to have to face government breadlines, as all the stores will be closed and people's money won't be worth anything anyway. Food is going to be one of the number one ways of corralling the people/sheeple into their pens.

We will definitely see food rationing and an artificially-created food crisis that will be blamed on the impending collapse.

 

call a crisis center.. :leaving:

 

My parents live in Miami and my dad has a boat. We can live off the sea, maybe. I definitely think this moron in the whitehouse is going to royally fuck up the economy, but I have hope that it won't be so bad that we have to go out and get our own food.

 

Watch out for pirates! ^


Arrr!

 

Anyone who really thinks the population of the United States or any western country is going to go hungry on a mass level needs to put down their bowl and get away from the computer

 

Anyone who is so gullible and brainwashed to think it cannot happen here (simply because we're Americans) is not even worth trying to argue with.

 

their are city wide hiring freezes were i live

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=349124&f=229
having fun with crisis line in time of crisis..

 

so what should we do about food?

is there a book out there outlining like what tree leaves you can eat?

Can you live off pine needles?

 

Stock up on canned foods, water, rice, beans, etc..

 

I know thats a good impulse. But, it's not a permanent solution.


Were gonna have to plant food. Right? I mean we can't all turn into hunters gatherers. This many humans would hunt and gather everything right up.

 

Why worry about other people?


You should be worrying about taking care of yourself.

I personally find the concept of facing another great depression as very exciting.

Some of the greatest periods of human development were during times of crisis.

And I plan on seeing this one to the fullest.

I really want to go traveling, maybe become a hobo.

If I ever disappear, you'll know where I went.

Either that, or I'm in a political re-education camp.

 

I wonder if they built prisons for the people that were starving back then too, round them all up in forced flooding's and mysterious natural disasters and called it: the progress of man.

 

Crisis brings about the survivors in mankind.

Survival of the fittest.


Confort and sustainability breed nothing but stagnation.

 

Some useful websites: www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net (Check out the news on the financial collapse - top right - for updates on the crisis and tips on how to get through it)

www.urbanscout.org for how to get through the collapse of civilization

http://www.transmission-x.com/luz/2007/10/26/hello-world/ - A great comic/step by step guide on how to grow your own food, power, and everything else you need in hard times

 

I don't think a depression is exciting at all.... but on the other hand, it's hard to imagine food being a problem. In the 30s, it was a problem because the land had been overfarmed and this led to a dust bowl-- years of shortages because the land was turning to dust.

On the other hand, nowadays we have hydroponics, genetic engineering, etc... even if trade collapses and nations start having to be more self-reliant, we're far better equipped to deal with it now. America especially, because there's so much space... in Canada as well.

Food is mostly a problem for those who don't have the means to up their production (if it becomes necessary, which it won't barring a global trade war). I wouldn't say America is one of those countries...

 

Stock up, yes. Also, be certain that you only get HEIRLOOM seeds for your garden and KNOW how to use them and save the seeds. Get some good books on survival skills. My bible is my wild edibles book. You can find food even growing between the sidewalk cracks... study, study, study...

Biggest problem won't be finding something to eat, biggest problem will be those who don't know how.

 

Actually Canada had relief camps, here in the states we mostly had migrant worker camps, set up sometimes by the farmers, many times by the workers themselves, sometimes by the Government such as with Arvin.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/fsahtml/fachap06.html

http://history.cbc.ca/history/?MIva...1&episode_id=13&chapter_id=2&page_id=2&lang=E

You can't have huge numbers of people living without basic sanitation and water...it's just not healthy. The police in my area periodically clean out the homeless camps under the bridges supposedly for that very reason.

 

I wouldn't try living on pine needles. The most important thing everyone can do right now is learn to live on less. Live within your means, and if your means is skimpy look around at what others are throwing out. I've paid my utilities a couple of times by picking up cans. And most of us could stand to tighten our belts. If you have a little piece of ground, or some pots try growing some stuff...it'll give you a whole new outlook on what's important. If not there are always the dumpsters. That's how the homeless make it.