Eastern Gate: An Atheist's Worst Nightmare

-The Eastern or Golden Gate, which was sealed for almost a 1200 years is a key part to Bible prophecy. Ezekiel recorded the prophecy about the closing of this gate. He told how the Lord brought him to the Eastern Gate.

And the Lord said to me, "This gate shall be shut; it shall not open, and no man shall enter by it, because the Lord God of Israel has entered by it; therefore it shall be shut. As for the prince, because he is the prince, he may sit in it to eat bread before the Lord; he shall enter by way of the vestibule of gateway, and go out the same way" (Ezekiel 44:1-3). In other words, this gate is reserved for the entrance of the coming messiah.

After twelve centuries of being sealed, attempts have been made twice in this century to open the Eastern Gate. The first was in 1917 and the second fifty years later in 1967. Muslim leaders in control of Jerusalem tried and failed to break the prophecy and open the gate. Each time, on the exact day the workmen were preparing to demolish the ancient stone, the hand of God intervened and the city of Jerusalem passed of Muslim control into hands of British in 1917 and the israelis in 1967. Each time, the Eastern Gate remained sealed as the prophet declared it would. Habakkuk explaines that prophecy must be fulfilled: "Write the vision and make it plain in tablets, that he may run who reads it. For the vision is yet for an appointed time; but at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries wait for it; because it will surely come. It will not tarry" (Habakkuk 2:2-3) (Jefferey, Messiah-1991)

 

All these hot shot atheist in this Christian forum, I call them out and they don't show.

 

campbell can I get a rain check till tommorow...

lots of writing there..I'm really interested.....but I just gotta go to Zzzz's now cause it's been a long day.............

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn

g'night

 

That sounds scary... I've never heard of that gate... I have heard something about the Garden of Eden being closed up... is that the same thing? I would be afraid to tear it down, whether I was a believer or not.

 

man, why does god have to be such a damn hotshot... he wont even let me through the same gate as him... :$

 

I'm sure he would, you just need to ask nicer

 

Ive posted this information on the Jehovah witness forum to see what they have to say....(will follow that up here with any replies from that forum)...

Now I'm off to dig into my Bible to see what it says...

because, in my way of thinking...that would be a physical, here and now, absolute proof/puzzle...(that is of course,... if there is not a reasonable, justifyable reason why that gate will not open).......

At the moment I am half athiest...?

Confused..?

I believe Jesus existed, and I believe in a "sort of" God.....but it is nothing like the one in the bible.... though the "sort of" God I believe in, is entirely compatible with the essence of what Christians believe about Jesus,...that Jesus was the son of God and a saviour...ect...

 

....cambell I'm following reading this: http://uk.geocities.com/jonpartin/ezekiele.html

at the moment....

BUT,....was'nt the temple destroyed by the romans about 70 years after Jesus was murdered.....So how can the gate be there..?

 

isn't the gate a recreation of the original gate built by the romans in the 250-300 AD period, a reconstruction of sorts after the romans officially converted to christianity

 

Hand of God holdin' the door shut, eh? Nothing a few barrels of TNT can't handle...

 

haha yeah that was my idea too lucifersam, we should make a fun day of it.

Where is the gate? what's on the other side of it? what's the gate for? and I don't mean for the next "coming" I mean what is it actually for.

 

OOOOhhh I have the answer... we throw animals at the gate till it finally busts open - then we can blame it on the animals!

Oorrr maybe it's the sign of the NOMMOS return!! and then THEY'll open it - the bible doesnt mention anything about their part in this world. The answer is nigh.

 

peace_sells,

Where is the gate? what's on the other side of it? what's the gate for? and I don't mean for the next "coming" I mean what is it actually for.

-Jerusalem, Israel
-It leads to the Temple Mount
-In ancient days, it allowed access to the temple.





strawpuppy,

BUT,....was'nt the temple destroyed by the romans about 70 years after Jesus was murdered.....So how can the gate be there..?

bluegill,

isn't the gate a recreation of the original gate built by the romans in the 250-300 AD period, a reconstruction of sorts after the romans officially converted to christianity

-Ezekiel 44:2 clearly states that the God of Israel has entered in by it, and since Jesus died before the gate was built, naturally you would think this would rule out the prophecy altogether. So I decided to look into this a little more. As I investigated further, I discovered the most amazing thing. In April of 1969 an excavation that dug directly beneath the present day East Gate, unearth the fully intact Shushan Gate. The Shushan Gate now acts as the foundation of the present and visible Eastern Gate. If the excavation
had continued, the old gate would be usable again. Yet as I began to read Ezekiel 44:3, pins and needles began to go up my spine. Because according to the prophecy, it states when the Prince comes to the gate, he will enter by the way of the porch of the gate. According to Google Web Definitions, a porch is a structure attached to the exterior of a building often forming a covered entrance. The visible Eastern Gate today is the attached porch. Christ must of passed through the old Eastern Gate or the Shushan gate many times because it was one of the main gates that leads
to the temple. When he returns again he will have to pass through the porch of that gate. Which would be the added on section. Now for this prophecy to be accurate and true, it requires two Eastern Gates to exist at the same time. It also requires both gates to be physically connected to each other. The porch of the gate would also have to be sealed, and any attempts to circumvent the prophecy by crashing through the gate would always meet with failure. The prince to come would of already had to of passed through the old Shushan Gate to fulfill the prophecy. In order
for him to complete the prophecy he will have to pass through the visible existing East Gate, or as Ezekiel puts it, the porch of the gate. The reason Ezekiel in verse 1 was so vague about the gate was because the gate that was to be sealed shut would not exist for another 1000 years. The East Gate is the porch of the old gate, and the gate that Ezekiel saw in his vision, is the same gate we see today, and the reason both attempts by the Arabs to smash through the ancient stone failed, is because the Gate is reserved for the prince to come.

 

Hi campbell,

I've been up in the mountains camping this week-end, but on my return I found this and thought it was worth posting....I have not checked it out yet as (once again....I'm really tired and have to get to bed...Also have to fly back to UK on Tuesday morning...my mum's ill..):

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The story you relate smells of urban legend. It is not entirely accurate. Here is some more information on the Golden Gate:


"The gate was probably open during the Byzantine period, and the Emperor eraclius entered through it after taking Jerusalem in 629. After the Muslim onquest, when the Dome of the Rock and the EI-Aksa Mosque were built, it was blocked to prevent unsupervised access to the mosque area.


In the time of the Crusaders it was opened twice a year on Christian festivals: once in the spring, on Palm Sunday, recalling Jesus' triumphal entry to the city through this gate (St. Matthew XXI, 1-8); and once in the autumn, to commemorate the entry of the Emperor Heraclius. The gate was finally closed under Turkish rule."


http://www.templemount.org/visittemp.html
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Not sure if this is the gate....It was just posted with the text (FYI)...?


Hope to catch up on this later....

strawpuppy

 

Yes that is the Gate...


It does not matter how many times it was open or closed even if that were the case. The Bible predicted that it would be eventially sealed and remain sealed until the Messiah came. This is not a urban legend, it is well known among Christians, Jews, and Moslims. The graveyard in front of it was an attempt by arabs to prevent the coming Messiah from enter the gate, believing that the Messiah would not want to walk through a graveyard.

 

I was going to go to bed, but all the hatred, all the hurt, all the sorrow and sadness from where this info came from just got to me...

here it is:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/74849/1.ashx

Then I went and fell headlong into this:

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15398

Hit the bottle of wine I had left over.....

And here I (blurry eyed, sad and fighting ALL the injustices and inequalities of this world... still up, and still knackered) am.

 

Are we still talkin about the Eastern gate? IS there any other athiest or anyone that can try explain away this amazing prophecy.

 

Umm, what do you want explained? It sounds like a really well built gate. If they really want to test it why don't they just blow it up... that's what I'd do if I was determined to open it for some reason.

 

Nowhere in the Bible does it declare that Jesus will return.

 

Umm, I like graveyards. Besides that- are you sure this doesn't refer to your heart? Take my red door and paint it black .