Drug interaction with Mushrooms?

Hi Everyone,

I have been interested in trying Mushrooms and MDMA for a while now. I currently have only smoked Marijuana and Salvia, and done no other drugs. I am on several medications for depression, bipolar, ocd and the liking. The medications I am on are:

Lithium
Tegretol
Lamictal
Buspar
Wellbutrin
Abilify

I am not making this up, but am really interested as to if it would be (more) dangerous for me to try mushrooms and MDMA than your average person who is not on any prescription meds.

I've asked my psychiatrist but he will not give me an answer because it is illegal and he does not condone it. I asked my psychologist once (who knows a decent amount about medications) about marijuana, and he told me he felt it was safer for me than alcohol due to my meds and my addictive personality.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

James

 

Hey, I had a friend who suffered from depression and sometimes shrooms worked okay other times it made things worse. I recommend if you do take shrooms it would be better for you if with a friend you trust, someone harmless.
The thing is on one occasion it made himsuicidal and it took a few of us to calm him down, he was something of an attentionseeker and he got stroppy we weren't giving his shroom tendencies any attention.

However he wasn't on any medication as far as i know.

 

there is something seriously wrong with either you, your parents, or your doctor

 

I second Bill's answer.

 

Wow, what a friendly answer. Yeah, I have problems, I've been trying to deal with this shit since I was in second grade.

Prick.

 

I think he meant the ammount of medication... Anyways, you may be risking some sort of bad reaction, but I think you should be fine. Just sit back and let the mushrooms flow, don't try to control, because mushrooms are about freedom.

 

I dont know you, but honestly, if you have emotional problems and an addictive personality, it really sounds like you should stay away from drugs, no offense or anything, just be careful. Try to solve your problems and understand yourself before getting into any sort of mind altering substances, because it could be really bad. I would just be very careful, and only do things if you think the positives outweigh the possible negatives. Good luck, man, and I hope you figure shit out! Hey, and mushrooms could definitely help you understand youself, and help with depression.

 

All of your meds may make it harder for you to trip. I know that antidpressents can block an acid trip,

not sure about mushrooms. Since you are depressed just be in a good state of mind,

 

Don't trip with your condition. Weed maybe. Shrooms or LSD = NO.

 

This.

Psychedelics should only be used by healthy adults. This includes mental health as well. Sorry, man.

 

Well, I have a friend who is bipolar and he was on three different meds but at different times. He tried mushrooms four different times about 3 to 5 grams and also 2c-e once at about 40mg and he had no effect whatsoever any of the times. He came to the conclusion that his meds somehow blocked the effects.

 

do anti depressants block the effect of mdma ? cuz i got my ex some pills 3 different times from different people too and she said it didnt affect her at all.

 

It depends on the anti-depressant, but generally, yeah, they fuck with MDMA.

 

hmm, my friend that I was talking about with the bipolar and on meds, took one pill of some x once and me and an other friend took two. We felt the pills like usual but it affected him extra strong. like he was fucked up. so different meds deffinately affect your trips.

 

If a single one of those is a MAOI you are going to die when you trip, literally.

 

Isn't Wellbutrin a SSRI? NEVER take a drug with an SSRI or MAOI in your system, bad idea. Unless it is orally ingested DMT. Stop all antidepressants two weeks prior to using any recreational drug or else you could be at risk for serotonin syndrome, something that can cause a very ugly and painful death. You wont like it, in other words lol.

The Mushroom Man

 

i would think a trip could go bad in a hurry if you have a condition like that.

 

I know stonerbill's response was harsh and not friendly...and I know it's none of my business, and I have no right to but into your medical life, etc....

But....I have to say...if a friend of mine told me he was on that many different prescription, mind altering drugs I would definitely talk to him about the competency of his doctor(s) and, if he were young, about his parents.

I'm sure there's no scientific information about how all those drugs interact together. They barely know about single drugs. Most of those studies have also been done on adult males unfortunately. It's really sounds too much of a cocktail on first impression. I think if he went to a different doctor, they might suggest fewer drugs, maybe no drugs, or maybe a different cocktail. It might change my friend's state of mind completely.

At this point, I wouldn't know how my friend or his doctors could evaluate his conditions because he is being pulled in all kinds of directions by all these meds.

So, I guess I would want to ensure that the doctor is someone he really really trust with his mind and that my friend's parents were doing enough to get second and third opinions from doctors in different practices to hear their opinion. Maybe not just different doctors but different types of doctors....counselors, naturopaths, psychiatrists, neurologist...least of all PCPs who probably know the least about this kind of thing.

I think it's often the case that the elderly and the young, who may not feel as powerful or independent enough to question what they are being prescribed, are given too much medication. Often, especially with multiple doctors, there are mistakes where contraindicated drugs are combined.

I think sometimes parents get desperate and at wits end, so they agree to anything that a doctor says might help their child because they love them so much.

I understand that prescription meds are necessary, especially in a situation where someone is super depressed or suicidal. I know sometimes things are necessary to survive, so I'm not totally against taking these types of drugs.

But a combination like that just makes me think that either you have some kind of super genius doctor who really knows how to mix drugs, or, I'm more inclined to think, it's a doctor who is irresponsible and wants to prescribe a pill for every symptom rather than spend the time to find a root cause and work with maybe one or two meds.

 

Here's the deal, two of your medications simple castrate the effects of most of the fun stuff out there.

Wellbutrin, common name Bupropion, blocks the reuptake of Norepinepherine, Serotonin, as well as Dopamine. This means that as your body releases the chemicals that make you feel good, make you feel rewarded, and make you feel energetic, the medication makes it so a lot more of those chemicals stay in your system, rather than fizzling out (being "reuptaken"). Now this, theoretically, boosts your mood, makes you happy, and makes you feel energetic all the time, but in turn, drugs that intend to release any of those chemicals which are blocked have a harder time doing so. Why?

The chemicals simply aren't there. We know that people who are on Anti-Depressents have a difficult time getting effects with MDMA. This is because the typical anti-depressent blocks the reuptake of serotonin. Ironically, the prime receptors that MDMA acts upon are serotonin receptors. All your serotonin is already running rampant in your system, so there isn't a huge reserve to release.

So you can see then, how many drugs are already deleted from your repretoire.. Cocaine (which releases dopamine), Nicotine (which releases dopamine/wellbutrin also completely blocks nicotine receptors), Amphetamines (which release adrenaline as well as to a certain degree, serotonin) and MDMA (which releases serotonin).

In fact, Wellbutrin is used to help people QUIT using drugs and tobacco.

But that's just Wellbutrin. Abilify is an Anti-Psychotic drug. It is intended for patients with Bipolar or other mental illnesses. Anti-Psychotics tend to "sedate" the nervous system. As we know from studies, other anti-psychotics as well as anti-anxiety medications are trip ENDERS. Take for instance Xanax (Alprazolam sp?). This is used medically for emergency room encounters with mushrooms, LSD, and other hallucinogens.

If you want the exact science.. the reason people trip is from a flood of information being sent to the brain. The brain can't process the information fast enough, so it gets mashed up.. and you trip. Anti-Psychotics depress (slow down) the nervous system, allowing the brain to play a game of "catch-up", and the trip ends.

Whew. Sorry for all that.

The point is, your medication will completely negate the effects of nearly any drug you use. Some chemicals are exempt, say Alcohol, but who wants that?

-Methanol

 

Your addiction problem and depression would cause me to say no to ecstacy and your mental instability would lead me to say no to mushrooms. Sorry man, but that shit just isn't right for you.