double the number from Coronavirus

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  1. BeckValentine

    BeckValentine Members

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    The virus has caused as many as 41,000 deaths in Britain. That's more than double the official figure which was listed as 17, 337 (source: The Daily Beast)

    If Johnson still thinks it is time to lift restrictions than clearly he is an imbecile and a loon. I mean honestly he is as incompetent as they come. Bloody hell he's...he's better off hiding in a fridge. The same fridge he hid in to avoid an interview with Piers Morgan.
     
  2. newo

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    Well after all, he survived the coronavirus and is now immune, so what does he have to lose? Now can anyone explain Trump's logic in wanting to lift restrictions? Oh right, it's the economy, the one thing that's been keeping him afloat.
     
  3. Wooster

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    I'm not so sure that there is such a thing as immunity from the Coronavirus. Some studies appear to show that in those who have recovered they can become reinfected. In my opinion there is no reason to lift social distance restrictions. It is too early. Yes I understand that people are frustrated and want to get back to their jobs and lives. Many people are still being paid despite not being able to travel to their jobs.
     
  4. newo

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    It's just a small percentage of people who've recovered that have gotten re-infected. And I also don't want restrictions lifted until things are under control.
     
  5. flippedcanvas

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    To the abover I honestly truly agree with you as lifting restrictions it's equal to a suicide mission!
     
  6. Vladimir Illich

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    Ahhh - but the 'nasty party' paymasters are calling for precisely that !!!

    Coronavirus: Tory election donors call on Boris Johnson to end 'harmful' lockdown

    Yahoo Staff Writer
    Apr 26th 2020 4:14PM
    Six multi-millionaires who bankrolled the Conservative party's election victory last December have called for Boris Johnson to ease coronavirus lockdown restrictions.

    The group of donors are seeking to put pressure on the Prime Minister as he returns to work on Monday, citing fears over the potential for further damage to the UK economy.

    Financier Michael Spencer, who has donated over £5m to the Tories in the last few years, told The Sunday Times: "We should start loosening up the lockdown as soon as we reasonably can and allow the economy to start moving forward.

    "We should really begin to offer a narrative of how and when it's going to stop."

    While Steve Morgan, the former boss of the housebuilder Redrow, who gave £1m to the Conservatives' general election campaign, said: "We're actually in danger that the medicine, if you want to call the lockdown that, is more harmful than the cure."

    Billionaire Peter Hargreaves, Phones4u founder John Caudwell, banker Sir Henry Angest and restaurateur Richard Caring - who donated over £2m to the election campaign between them - also called for an easing of the lockdown measures.


    Despite originally setting a review date of April 13, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said on April 16 that the shutdown would be extended for at least three more weeks.

    The situation will be reviewed again on May 7.

    At the Downing Street briefing on Saturday, Home Secretary Priti Patel refused to comment on what the Government's exit strategy was, saying it would be "irresponsible" to get people's hopes up.

    Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has also stepped up pressure on the Government to set out an "exit strategy" for lifting the lockdown.

    In a letter to Mr Johnson he said the UK was again in danger of falling behind other countries, which were already engaged in "adult" conversations with their citizens as to how the restrictions could be eased.

    "The British public have made great sacrifices to make the lockdown work. They deserve to be part of an adult conversation about what comes next. If we want to take people with us and secure their consent, this is necessary now," the letter reads.

    The Government insists that the lockdown must continue, but some Britons have been tempted back outside to green spaces by days of constant sunshine.

    Before he was taken to hospital, Mr Johnson was trying to ram home the "Stay home, protect the NHS, save lives" message, but discipline has been slipping.

    Many police forces across the UK have complained of having to deal with flagrant breaches of the shutdown rules, while traffic data revealed car journeys had crept up by three percentage points this week.

    And mobility data released by Apple revealed that in recent days searches for maps for walking or driving had increased by eight percentage points.

    It comes as the UK death toll in hospitals rose past 20,000 on Saturday, a bleak milestone as health officials had previously hoped that in the best case scenario they could limit this figure to 20,000 or below.
     
  7. wilsjane

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    Around 1,400 people die in the UK every day, but this is based on a yearly average. During all flue epidemics certain days will have considerably higher numbers and this has always been accepted.

    The current situation is exceptional, but as long as we don't allow the NHS to become overwhelmed resulting in UNNECESSARY deaths, their is little that we can do without shutting the entire country down for more than another 12 months.

    Prior to a vaccine, our best defense lies in herd immunity, so too much separation for too long could do more harm than good.

    In effect, the current situation is already robbing people of months of their life, particularly students who may need to spend an extra year in study.
    It is a difficult situation with no simple answers.
     
  8. Dax

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    Let the people go! We have lockdown in many many countries and the Covid 19 cases keep going up. So what is the point?
     

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