I'm just curious if i have a tolerace to 2c-e, mainly because when i first tried it I took 22mg and only had mild OEVs and almost no CEVs. I also had very little stomach discomfort. So I'm wondering if tonight i should try a higher dose, say in the 40-50mg range?
I take adderal (perscription), but havn't had it in atleast 4 days. By the way I just took about 40mg 2c-e via water...
2c-e is considered pretty dose responsive, 40mg is a somewhat large lead from a first dose of 22. Try 25 - 30. Maybe someone else could give you a tip on how to dose one amount and then a little more if you feel you need it but I don't really know, have only ever needed one dose with 2c-e.
How long before this last dose did you take your first does? That may present a problem with tolerance. None-the-less 22mg and surely 40mg should have you tripping pretty decently. If not maybe the 2C-E you have is bunk. Try ordering from a different supplier. 25mg my first time did the trick. There wasn't any of that 'Am I tripping or is this placebo' BS. I was trippin nuts.
Hey thanks for the replys. I really didn't notice any tolerance considering that I had dosed the day before. The trip started at around 7:00 PM and lasted at least until 2:00 AM. It was a pretty decent trip besides some nasea towards the begining (a little purging ended that). After that I felt fine, had some pretty interesting visuals listening to some music in the dark. Just about everything in my house seemed spaced further apart. My backyard appeared absolutely amazing! The stars were so beautiful, like brilliant little kaleidoscopes of light in the sky. The only other thing to note about this experience is that I would like to shoot for a 60mg dose next time and see how much further that can get me, I just didn't feel that I had passed my previous LSD trips, and even some LSA trips. (I guess I enjoy the feeling of not being in control like on LSD, etc.. and 2c-e throws me off when I'm tripping but I'm still able to do just about everything I do when I'm sober) Anyways so that'll be tomorrow, any information on just how high dose trips tend to be would be helpful. I say high dose meaning if 20mg is a high dose for you, or 55mg is, I'd still like to know what I'll be expecting.
I agree LSD is a much more frantic swing of the emotions and thoughts. A good trip is like a constant juggle between enlightenment and insanity, though I have heard a few people have psychotic reactions to 2ce as well. When 2ce has gotten rough for me it's more like an "I don't want to be tripping right now" opposed to LSD where it's more of a "Am I going to be stuck like this?" I do think LSD trips at times can be straight up silly and nonsensical though and 2ce is a lot more grounded to me and still every bit as intense in a way, which I like.
the ONLY time i worried about being stuck like this was on ~20 mg 2ce and quite a few bong rips. LSD has never done that to me. on LSD i would think "i'm going to be stuck like this?! good "
not that high. most i've ever taken at once was 4 white blotters. 3 hoffmans and (separately) 1.4 shivas had me tripping about as hard.
That's fair enough for a comparison I would say though, LSD really effects my associations between objects, memories and words much more so than 2ce, just varied responses I suppose. Not for an entire trip, but I've definitely been some places on LSD mentally where I just was not enjoying my thought patterns and associations running loose and constantly juxtaposing with each other.
i just feel like a newborn baby on LSD. taking it all in, in absolute awe. that time on 2ce was the only time i thought i had gone too far, and that i was gonna be stuck that way. worrying about having to go to work like that, tell my family and my girlfriend... i don't get much in the way of memories on LSD, it's more in the now. i do feel an association of some type to certain, random objects, but it's nothing to frighten me really.
18 mgs rectal was probably the most intense 2ce experience I had but I didn't leave my room really except for maybe like once to check outside, I think. It was still very manageable in a I know I'm on a drug sense but the time distortion felt pretty maxed out and I guess it was 'darker' than the lighter doses, like other people report, but it was nowhere near the darkness I associate with disassociatives. I could barely make out my room and didn't really notice any nausea , i'm not sure to chalk that up to more intense subjective effects or the route administered. I don't really remember all that much of it to be honest, I certainly don't recall the 'electricity' of 24 mgs oral, it was more sedating maybe but I was definitely really far out visually and tripping hard, music sounded amazing as always.
Haha probably a good idea. I truly believe that either I have an insane tolerance to 2c-e or that the stuff I purchased is bunk. Because the way you described your trip, I would, going by my last trip, definitely have to bring my dose to the 60mg range to come close to that...
Yah I'm thinking about 35-40 oral would get me to that similar point so you may be working with cut stuff or you do have a tolerance maybe.
Yeah I guess I'll finish what I've got left, about 350mg, and find a new vendor. I would rather find out that it's bunk, than to find out that I have a tolerance haha would save me a lot of money.:2thumbsup: