dopamine vs serotonin

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by navajas, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. navajas

    navajas Member

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    what causes stronger depression low levels of dopamine or low levels of serotonin? what makes ur happier a dopamine rush or a serotonin rush?
     
  2. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    Dopamine is responsible for the euphoria of amphetamine. Serotonin is responsible for a lot of the hallucinogenic drug effects of psychedelics and shit. But psychedelics mess with serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine/epinephrine?

    I never feel too bad from an amphetamine come down. And that's just dopamine I'm fairly sure.
     
  3. navajas

    navajas Member

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    dopamine is released when u have sex or eat food... cocaine increases dopamine, meth increases it even more i think... serotonin is related to mdma...
     
  4. StonerBill

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    lack of dopamine will make things seem boring and pointless and frustrating. Dopamine makes us feel like we are succeeding, that whatever we are doing is good, and thus gives us a lot of confidence. dopamine is like the emotion of our actions.

    serotonin confidence and euphoria is different. With serotonin, its not so much that you are boosted with confidence but moreso that the things that normally make you anxious or cautious just dont seem so dangerous anymore. all of the negative/alien distinctions we make concerning alliance, danger, appropriateness, attractive, specific icons, all these things start to give way to open trust and eventuaolly ecstasy.

    lack of serotonin makes the world seem qualitatively negative, sad, meaningless, ugly.
    serotonin is like the emotion of our perceptions.
     
  5. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    that just blew my mind :D
     
  6. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Bill, that was a wicked summary.
     
  7. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    that should be submitted to Erowid
     
  8. StonerBill

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    perhaps I am getting somewhere then :)
     
  9. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    i liked it too, puts a lot into perspective about my mood when im a tad shmit burnt.
     
  10. navajas

    navajas Member

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    yeah dopamine is more physical, serotonin is more mental, dopamine is straight forward, serotonin is surreal...
     
  11. StonerBill

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    If we consider the physical reality to come to us through sensations, and actions to be a mental operation, then you would perhaps say that serotonin is more 'physical' and dopamine more 'mental', psychedelics influence serotonin system and that definately changes the reality we are in, and thus, the root from which we can determine ourselves physically. Ecstacy releases serotonin and the experience is much more of a physical one than methamphetamine, for example.
     
  12. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    damn bill, you've been smoking some great shit. props 4 the post :cheers2:
     
  13. BornFree

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    i would love to snort some dopamine and serotonin.. where do i buy some? ;)
     
  14. StonerBill

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    unfortunately, (whether you were serious or not) you cant take serotonin or dopamine. if you COULD, then serotonin and dopamine would leak out of your brain. all the chems naturally in yur brain stay there. all chems that get in can get out. so if you could take natural neurotransmitters then our neurotransmitters would all fall out
     
  15. codemeister3

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    got some pretty good expanations here i think! g/j! i dont think i could have put it that well. even tho dopamine and serotonin r pretty closely related themselfs. most drugs (meth, X, cocaine) effect both to some degree.
     
  16. navajas

    navajas Member

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    ur absolutely right, however meth n coke r more dopamine oriented, n x is serotonin oriented....
     
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    prissbaby creepy

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