dont understand politics..wanna know whats going on in our world

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Brightness_08, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. Brightness_08

    Brightness_08 Member

    I try to understand politics but a lot of the conceepts I can't get my mind wrapped around. When I was in high school I learned about a lot of wars and world events, but a lot of the time I didn't understand certan words used or the whole concept of what was happening. I feel dumb when it comes to politics and government. I just don't get it. I don't even fully understand what a democracy is, or what communism is, and a whole bunch of other things most people get. I do research on my freetime but I'm still left feeling confused. I really want to understand politics and government and what's going on in this world...I really do. Every time I try though...it doesn't make sense to me. Please enlighten me...help me understand): I've felt this way all throughout high school and it hasn't changed
     
  2. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

    That is a bigggggggggggg question you are asking.

    First of all we're all confused.

    The definition of democracy is arbitrary. Go on wikipedia, type in democracy, start from there.

    As for how the world works and what is going on... Anyone's guess is as good as yours.
     
  3. Brightness_08

    Brightness_08 Member

    I guess what I'm trying to ask is, are there any good books or websites that would help me in understanding the subject of politics and government better?
     
  4. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

    being confused is often better than assuming that you know something
     
  5. Mike Suicide

    Mike Suicide Sweet and Tender Hooligan

    Politics in nutshell:

    The art of taking money from the few and votes from the many under the pretext of protecting the one from the other.
     
  6. EL Tuna

    EL Tuna Member

    This site is 98% dem/lib. Im 100% GOP. Like mentioned, Google any word followed by wiki and just read.

    But as mentioned too, You're better off walking away now and cut your losses. Its not really that fun 'knowing' whats going on and how it plays out. To each their own, Good luck either way
     
  7. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

    This site is not 98% Democrat . There are quite a few conservatives but I think most people don't subscribe to either party's bullshit.

    Politics are a farce. It's a game played by the wealthy.
     
  8. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

    http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page
    http://www.alternet.org/
    http://therealnews.com/t2/
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/

    While we're lead to believe we're governed under a democracy I do not think that's the case.
    The federal government is self governing and we have no say in what they do. I'm pretty sure the president answers to the Feds. Maybe start looking into how the federal government was formed and maybe how the Rothchild bloodline is involved in how things operate today.

    http://thechangeishere.blogspot.com/2009/09/rothschild-bloodline.html
     
  9. Driftwood Gypsy

    Driftwood Gypsy Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    politics are complicated, and they're meant to be that way. That's why I try not to get too deep; there's so many better things to pay attention to.
     
  10. outthere2

    outthere2 Senior Member

    You're not alone. But you don't have to stay where you are. Imo, your best ally for getting a better understanding of politics is to cultivate your curiosity. Read- then perhaps discuss your understanding on forums like this and see what comes back to you.

    Keep the concepts that stand up to criticism; discard ideas that don't.
    Yeah right. About the only thing I was told about communism is that it's bad and those Russians were evil too.

    As I understand communism (now) is that it's a utopian or idealized socialist society; people in that society would put community before self; citizens of that society would say, "I am my brother's keeper."

    So to the degree that an idea benefited "community" it would be given corresponding value.

    A capitalist society does the opposite- it puts self before community; people in that society value self as supreme; citizens of that society would say, "I am NOT my brother's keeper!"

    So to the degree that an idea benefited "self" it would be given corresponding value.

    Me too!

    I think that's because of the high degree of BS with respect to politics; the chief litmus test (for me) in discerning truth from BS is to follow the money.

    I doubt that altruism has ever been much of a driver of political action; however, the drive of politicians to put money in their pockets is a likely driver of political action, (imho).

    I'd say- continue cultivating your curiosity :)
     
  11. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

    Chomsky on Anarchism
     
  12. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

    What country are you from? Democracy takes different forms in different parts of the world.
     
  13. Existensile

    Existensile Member

    For years I'd read accounts of how Marx was disappointed that his communist philosophy was so popular in Russia, long B4 the actual revolution occurred, since it was an agrarian country & his communism was supposed happen in industrialized nations (England, Germany).

    But I came across an old essay by Bertrand Russell who wrote that Marxist-style communism in Russia made sense, because communism calls for a violent overthrow of government & the Russians had long dealt w/ their problems w/ violence.
     
  14. outthere2

    outthere2 Senior Member

    As I undersannd it, revolution is an acceptable means to an end in communism. I don't believe it promotes perpetual revolution.
     
  15. Summerhill

    Summerhill Member

    Politics and developing ones understanding of it , for me , has & continues to be an on going process of 'reality testing'. You hear someone stating an opinion on a given issue and you compare that with your own 'take', the feeling you have about , it based on your experience and you conscience.

    Having got to a place on a given issue where you say 'yeah,thats sounds right to me-i can believe in that',you can talk it through with those you know. Look out for that issue being discussed of TV ect, reality testing it further,getting to know the arguments ,pros & cons , for and against.

    Its really about what 'rings true' for you . You may find your opinions change as you learn more and that they get stronger as you identify with some and see others as 'wrong' .

    The Left versus Right thing can be intimidating to understand . It can help to keep it simple ,I found, starting out by imagining a long horizontal line with the Left to Right positions marked allong it from one extreme position at the left end .to the 'far right on the other , 'moderate Left & Right share the center of the line. Like this.

    Marxist Communists , Socialists, Liberal/socialism , Conservatism , Fascist & far Right

    Thats pretty simplified & dosent place Anarchism, Libertarianism & Nazism but its somewhere to start from. The Left,from extreme left to moderate centre-left place their emphasis on the group as the important unit in society. The Left favour shared ownership, shared responsibility and (especially in USA) are seen as being for 'Big' Government and extensive welfare provision.
    Thr Right are much more about the individual in terms of rights & responsibilities within society. The Right believe in small Government of minimal interference , individual freedom , free enterprise and the duty of the citizen to provide for their own needs .

    Hope this helps. But as others have rightly said , politics confuses & 'wrong-foots' us all . You are certainly not alone !
     
  16. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

  17. wabbey

    wabbey Member

    Basically the banks own you , your cat and dog and every politiian all the way downthe piramid and you in their eyes are right at the bottom .
     
  18. outthere2

    outthere2 Senior Member

    ^ why doesn't anyone seem to care?
     
  19. Summerhill

    Summerhill Member

    Thats just it ,we'v gota get that back into politics !
     
  20. Driftwood Gypsy

    Driftwood Gypsy Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    That's why I try not to get as involved as I used to.... I still peak my head into politics, but overall it's too much stress and anxiety for me, was making me sick; so I don't post very often in politics, or at least I try not to unless 1) I have knowledge about it 2) I'm passionate about it. Too often it becomes a flame war.
     

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