i cant agree with people when they they've had a BAD trip. in the times that ive tripped, of coarse ive experienced bad feelings and whatnot, but have never let them take a hold of me and turn my trip around. for people who do trip and cant deal, i dont think they should even be dosing in the first place. also, another culprit i blame for 'introducing' bad trip is smoking pot. the paranoia i get just from smoking is enough to get me fucking twisted on lsd. i believe bad thoughts and shit can occur during a trip, but i dont think people should label their whole trip as 'bad'. any other thougts on this?>
I see your point, I really do. I will just add this though - what about situations where the whole trip is extremely uncomfortable, and the trip never was "enjoyable" in the first place? I'll give an example. This wan't on lsd though. I thought it was 1,0000 morning glory seeds, but with this kind of reaction I can't be sure of the exact amount - I do know that I messed up the extraction though, I had let it sit for an extra 20 minutes accidentaly. Anyway, the whole trip I was in constant physical and emotional pain. There were strong visuals too: I felt like I was on fire, and jagged or unshaped objects (ex. a glob of hand lotion) would turn orange and take on the shape of fire. The whole trip was uncomfortable, I had to re-learn how to eat when it was all over (those seeds fuck with your muscles!) and the next day I felt sad and almost like I couldn't deal with the new reality I had been placed in. I did get over it though about halfway through the next day. I learned a lot in that trip though, so it wasn't "bad" at all really. There were a lot of things I was questioning in my life, and I happened to find answers to these questions. I was suprised at the reaction, because all of my previous morning glory experiences (at lower doses) had been enjoyable, some even euphoric, and the body load was never really painful like that. That was my first time trying 1000 seeds though, and after a few days I figured out that I messed up the extraction...
i think bad trips only exist if you give them power to be real. it's not terribly hard to maintain a positive direction. i mean you just can't fight what is happening to you.
I worried about something like that happening but luckily i was high like an angel....Literally thats what i felt like...A badass angel....lol
I'm sorry guys, but bad trips do happen, and often times for reasons that we do not even invite, consciously or subconsiouly. I'm not talking about paranoia about the cops, worried about getting "stuck", or the fear of death. I don't mean to lessen anyone's experiences, but those all belong in the kindergarten of bad trips lol. The bad trips I'm talking about is helplessly watching your essence fractionate into a billion separate particles as your physical body writhes on the ground and you give into seizures as you experience the agony and suffering of every living thing in existence that has ever or will ever live, and then you begin to feel sick in your stomach and start to cry because you finally understand yourself and realize that you can never, never die. Sound like fun that you can control? These kinds of trips are preprogrammed for some people, they will experience them when they trip, and there is nothing good about them and they did not occur because of some fault or fear in the person.
i can understand that you may not believe in them and have never had one, and i used to believe that too. But shit anything can happen when ur tripping that can change the whole trip. A few nights ago i was tripping on mushrooms when i went to go roll a joint and as i was chopping i started to get dizzy so i went outside to get some fresh air. I don't remember getting outside but next thing i knew i was lying face down on the decking and my mate was out there with me asking if i was ok. Turns out when i got outside i feinted and smacked my head on the ground. For the next ten minutes or so i couldn't really move or see. Everything was fuzz, my mind my vision, i didn't even know i was on the ground until my mate told me, and felt like shit, threw up a little later and spent the rest of the trip really groggy, had no idea what was going on and just wanted to go to sleep but couldn't in case i had a concussion. Up until then i was having a great trip after i would say it was a terrible trip. I've tripped a lot in my time. I mean a lot, and until then have never had a bad trip. But it is possible.
yea i agree man. neo, this one time on shrooms i was trippin off an 8th and we set off our smoke alarm in our dorm. a cop came up and i dealt with that situation, trippin hard i have no idea how it happend. lol. but what im sayin is that that couldve caused the worst bad trip to occur. instead i realized the situation i was in a just kept it real. im not saying they cant happen, but i believe a large majority of them happen simply becuase people "buy into" the whole bad trip philoshophy
i know what you're saying, but i've had a couple bad trips myself. one where i got really terrified, then really angry. one where i had a constant stream of negative thoughts. and another where i just got really really paranoid. bad trips happen man. it's all about your surroundings and what your mood is going into them though. i mean, if you double park at a coffee shop surrounded by all these friends' parents you know while tripping your balls off, you're gonna not have too good of a time. at least i didn't. i definitely agree that it takes a certain degree of self knowledge and the ability to cope with whatever the trip throws at you to handle trips in the first place though.
Hey Desos, is this you expressing your jealousy, or are you just mad b/c we tag-team smackdowned you in that elite insider thread? You should thank us man, while you were still reeling in the boundless open air headspace of post acid euphoria, we saved you from joining a cult. :cheers2: