Don't Be Nobody's Fool For Love--article

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the first half of your artical made a lot of sense... and then you started talking about the roles of men and women in society and what is expected of each sex... thats when it kinda turned to shit.

 

I agree. Not everyone agrees that men should provide and women should stay home. Not everyone agrees that living together before marriage is "out of the question".
I agree that men should treat women with respect...as should women treat men, women treat women, men treat men, etc. But, respect goes way beyond "freeloading".

 

Wow. When I first meet a guy, what I want to know is whether we will become friends. Who gives a fuck if he is marriage material when I first am meeting him -- that is the last thing I want to know about some guy I just met. Until we have a strong basis of friendship, such concerns are out of the question.

You sound like you are objectifying men just as you complain about their objectification of women. All a man is to you is marriage fodder, sperm & a wallet? Wow.

Of course, the same could be said of a woman who is still living at home (not taking care of elderly parents). Gotta spread the condemnation around, men aren't the only slackers & mooches out there.

Whoa, back that shit up right there. What the fuck kind of argument are you putting forth here. This is not the christian (not-so-) right you're talking to here. Any god that wants me to be tied to the kitchen by my apron strings & be submissive to some man can burn in hell. That is no god to me, that is an evil, sadistic bastard.

First, marrying a man I have not lived with is out of the question for me. I can't count how many people I've known who made wonderful friends, were wonderful lovers as long as they went home to separate apartments each night, but could NOT live together. You don't buy a car without taking it for a test drive, & marriage is a FAR more life altering & expensive decision.

Second, what the fuck kind of marriage are you looking to get into? If I cook, he does the dishes, but frankly he cooks more meals for me than I do for him. I may wash his clothes, but he cleans the bathrooms, which I find far more nasty (specifically the toilet). And you make it sound like he's the only one getting anything out of sex -- if you're just doing it to please him, you need to grow up & go buy a vibrator.

Wow, finally something I can somewhat agree with. I wouldn't fault women entirely, obviously, but there is that old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me". It is really disgusting to listen to a woman go back to a man who cheated on her (or worse, fight the other woman over who gets him -- neither should want him). Tho, if he wanted to be the head of the household (as opposed to sharing that role equally) & expected me to cook & clean while he comes home & does nothing, I would count that as supremely disrespectful & kick his ass to the curb.