Don't be fooled by Obama...

Discussion in 'People' started by StpLSD25, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    if you want to know what Obama has done WRONG. He has unconstitutionally;



    1:signed the NDAA 2012 into law,

    2:Killed American Citizens without trial, (Anwar al-Awlaki)

    3:Questioned the decision of the supreme court, (which FDR wouldn't do, for fear of being seen as a dictator.)

    4:Waged war on Libya without congressional support,

    5:Tried to force Catholics to provide abortions, (which takes away religious freedom,)

    6:Went to a secret Bilderberg group meeting, while diverting the press. (In 2008)

    7:Has Chosen HIMSELF as Chairman of United Nations Security Council!

    8:Reinstated the Patriot Act,

    All these things I've mentioned, are completely unconstitutional. (with the exception of #3.) But seriously, this guy is a dictator.
     
  2. Giant

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    Nah he's not the worst you've had, and I'd like to get a link or something for point 5.
     
  3. psychedelicpiper

    psychedelicpiper Member

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    Obama didn't only kill Awlaki. He ordered a drone that killed Awlaki's 16-year-old son, his 17-year-old cousin and several other teenage boys while they were eating dinner outside.
     
  4. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    The first point is the most important. According to the NDAA 2012 the federal government can detain anyone indefinatly without trial, he is the worse dictator we've ever had!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f1vP0XVxDg
     
  5. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    sadly he seems to be the lesser of two evils.

    I agree that most of your points are shitty things to do, except for 'forcing' catholic institutions to provide women the same quality of healthcare as any other institution.
     
  6. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    I can think of many other American leaders who have done much worse.

    You will never agree completely with any president...might as well take the good with the bad. And I think Obama has done a pretty good job with the shit show he walked in on...
     
  7. psychedelicpiper

    psychedelicpiper Member

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    What lesser of two evils? Obama and Romney are both just as bad. Romney supports the NDAA 2012, Bernanke, the Patriot Act, American exceptionalism/imperialism. Obama set a lot of horrible precedents, and in addition to the points above escalated our nation's debt.

    I'm voting for Ron Paul no matter what.
     
  8. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    No. And I mean no offense to egg or Malia, but Obama's not what anyone expected him to be. I'm not looking for the "lesser of the two evils," 53% of Americans want a third party candidate. Anyone who considers themselves a hippie should vote for Dr. Ron Paul!!!
     
  9. Burnt

    Burnt Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Anybody that is a Hippie should vote for themselves, not what someone insists to be a better option in there personal opinion.
     
  10. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    Ron Paul isn't exactly a hippie candidate... anti-abortion, pro 'free market'...

    I think he has good foreign policy, but he definitely has his problems as well.
     
  11. psychedelicpiper

    psychedelicpiper Member

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    EXACTLY! :2thumbsup: If it wasn't for Ron Paul, I just wouldn't vote.

    I hate the whole "lesser of two evils" decision. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night or feel morally right getting behind either Romney or Obama. They both have their evil agendas to fulfill, and both would further the deaths and imprisonment of innocent people. In a way, I'd feel responsible by having voted for them.

    If not Ron Paul, then none at all!
     
  12. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Liberty should be the opinion of a hippie. If anyone is gonna pull the closed minded "all republicans are crooks, obama's not so bad," Ticket, then they are no better than the previous generation. We can change this country for the better.

    Ron paul would;

    End the drug war

    End the Iraq/Afganistan wars

    Not go into any unconstitutional wars.

    Follow the U.S constitution.

    What else would a true hippie want? Obama is politics as usual. I know hippies are unique and diverse but at some point we need to stand together and oppose the status quo
     
  13. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    You're misunderstanding his concept. He's against abortion because he's a Doctor who delivered over 4000 babies. BUT he believes that the government shouldn't be able to tell one how to run one's life. He wouldn't make abortion illegal. And yes he's for free markets, but that isn't a bad thing, capitalism ensures that people can make it rich from ideas etc. BUT He's against bailouts and giving money to failing industries. Free market is okay, but not when it's involved in politics. If you want business in our government, keep voting for "the lesser of the two evils"
     
  14. PurpByThePound

    PurpByThePound purpetrator

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    ron paul wants to make public education a state cost...you realize how much state govt is struggling with money already?

    i dont understand how his healthcare is forcing abortions either.
    catholics somehow confuse the word OFFERED healthcare as FORCING healthcare

    i have so many issues with people that are so self-centered and ignorant that they dont want to provide healthcare like a first world country should
     
  15. yellowcab

    yellowcab Fresh baked

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    May I refer you to this thread, it covers the points of RP policies and opinions .http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=436309&f=36
     
  16. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    But at who's expense? Oh, just 1 million Iraqis since 2002... We really do need a smaller government. They're too intrusive on our personal liberties. Since no one here cares about catholic beliefs fine strike that out.
    Obama still thinks he has the right to arrest and KILL American citizens without trial and that is an immense problem in our current government.
    What if us hippies and activists are the "terrorists" they decide to detain?

    And I think Ron Paul wants to privatize education but I'm not sure on that. Still, I think it would be a good thing because it would give states some motive to legalize marijuana.
     
  17. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    I'm with you all the way!!! I already voted in the state primary and will be voting in November for Dr. Paul. He is better than all the candidates a million times to one.
     
  18. psychedelicpiper

    psychedelicpiper Member

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    When big government controls healthcare, prices go up while quality goes down. Plus imagine the waiting list. We need to shrink the federal government. It doesn't even have the money to provide for such a thing.

    Ron Paul's a doctor, and he's right on point about healthcare. The states may be in a lot of debt as well, but he's not ignorant and is aware of how to fix things. He also believes the free market should be allowed to offer alternate health insurance plans people can choose from, as well as alternative competing forms of medicine. Ron Paul's a threat to the corrupt pharmaceutical industry.
     
  19. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    Agreed. I think if more people looked into his message instead of just assuming he's "just another republican," he would have much more support. But I still believe his support is growing, and I know he's better than Obama for freedom any day of the week.
     
  20. jamgrassphan

    jamgrassphan Get up offa that thing Lifetime Supporter

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    The U.S. presidency (and politics) is theatre, a distraction. Everyday, I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the only way this corrupt government can be corrected, is from the bottom up. This whole house of cards depends on your willingness to participate in the systems that are designed to exploit and subjugate you. Ron Paul isn't anymore of a savior than Obama. It's lazy and apathetic to continue to harbor the belief that all that is needed is to elect the right person. Do you really think these election war chests are all about "spreading" the message of any given candidate? They're another idiot tax, like the lottery. No change must come from the bottom up - corruption has become the institution. Stop financing your own oppression.
     

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