Donald Trump

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  1. Memn1984

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    totally agreed
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Why would anyone who knows about Trump's frauds and bankruptcies think he's going to be an improvement over the status quo? It's always been about him, the big I AM--too bad about the people he steps on to advance himself. Trump U. and all those bankruptcies left lots of poor suckers holding the bag. And he's going to protect us from foreign competition, even though he outsources his various business operations. Gimmie a break!
     
  3. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Is there some kind of scorecard out there for this? On the right all I hear is that out of 500 businesses and brands, he's only bankrupted a small number of companies, like 8 I think. So that's 1.6% of his ventures ending in bankruptcy, hardly worth the ruckus. And then there's the matter of what kind of bankruptcy, they don't all end up with someone walking away from debt. Most are just for buying time.

    I'm all for vetting every political candidate as tightly as the government they control wants to vet me for a top security position. It's only fair. I think Trump is running to get the country back to the way HE is accustomed to making a buck. The first Clinton administration cost him plenty, Obama even more. Now he's looking at Hillary, whom he knows rather well, and he doesn't like what he sees. While he talks a good game, I'm pretty sure he's all about #1.

    Regardless of who is elected I expect to see the wealthy benefit more than anyone else. Crazy talk, I know.
     
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  4. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The last sentence isn't crazy at all. As for the rest, you may be right--about the crazy talk. I'm afraid we may all find out the hard way what it's like to be Trumped!
     
  5. Chigurh

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    I like Trump, but reading comments online saying if I don't support Trump I support Hillary, is a little annoying. By that logic, I didn't support Romney so herp derp Obama is somehow my fault. After listening to G. Edward Griffin all day, I'm starting to wonder what our 3rd options is. Man that guy is a downer, in a good way.
     
  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No major company has filed for more Chapter 11 bankruptcies than Trump in the last 30 years, six.

    The Trump Taj Mahal, Atlantic City, in one year it was $3 billion in debt, Trump personally had $900 in personal liabilities. 1991

    Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino, Atlantic City, $250 million. 1992

    Trump Plaza Hotel, New York City, $550 million in debt. 1992

    Trump Taj Maha, Marina, River Boat Casino, and Trump Plaza, $1.8 billion in debt in 2004.

    Trump Entertainment Resorts, $53.1 Million. 2009

    Trump Plaza Associates, $100 to $500 million in debt. 2014

    I think I got that right.

    In addition he has been found to have a record of refusing to pay contractors what they are owed in 33 states over a 40 year time period.

    Wall Street banks are hesitant to lend him money:

    Federal Election Commission disclosures have shown that 15 companies associated with Trump owe more than $270 million to banks. Trump responds to these critiques by saying that he doesn't use Wall Street because he doesn't need the money — he's rich enough to do his own financing. ~ The Washington Post

    He sold Trump airline to get out of debt, his football league and Trump magazine failed.
    His connections to the Mafia have been documented, he has hired undocumented workers. At Trump tower he hired Polish workers at $5.00 an hour or less and then refused to pay them. When they complained a man named John Baron called them and threaten them with a lawsuit. Trump has used the name John Baron his whole career.

    He rejected American workers at his Mar a Lago Club in Palm Beach in favor of Romanian guest workers.

    And let's not forget Trump University which is facing several lawsuits, one for $40 million by the New York Attorney General in addition to fraud, false advertising, unfair business practices, and elder abuse in California and Florida. ~ Fortune

    Trials are upcoming, the Federal one on November 28. So if Trump is elected we will have a President going to Federal trial on numerous felony charges.


    Most of this comes from The Washington Post
     
  7. Chigurh

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    Thinking about your post today, and why the US is a Republic instead of a Democracy. Imagine if the peoples became so pissed at their government, they decided to elect someone like Vermin Supreme. Not very probable but certainly possible. Then what? Would the US gov. allow a man who wears a boot on his head anywhere near our military, regardless of the peoples' wishes? I agree we need someone to break this mess up, but honestly don't think it will ever happen, not now at least. Blows my mind that people on the Left would vote for Hillary, just because she's a democrat or to spite Trump, and that people on the Right would vote for Hillary JUST to spite Trump.
     
  8. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    He's got quite a few civil lawsuits against him as well.

    Early in his career he borrowed money from banks to build a building in New York, but what was not clear to the banks was that he had a separate title for the land that the building sat on. When he couldn't pay the mortgage, the banks foreclosed. He then informed them that the land had a separate title and if any banker tries to step on the land to try to seize the building that they will be arrested for trespassing. I first heard this story when I was an analyst at Sheason Lehman. Then I read it in a biography about him----in which he actually bragged about it as a clever business practice. He did force the hands of the banks and they had to renegotiate deal which is what he wanted. The banks obviously took a loss from the loan.


    At Shearson I remember Investment Bankers saying that there isn't a bonus in the world that would make them want to do a deal with Trump. They said, even back then, that he can't be trusted.
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

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    Google "the emperor has no balls"

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Flagme15

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    Remember a few weeks ago when Kasich said that he was offered the job to be trump's running mate, and that he would be the most powerful VP in American history? Isn't that proof that trump doesn't want the job, just the title?

    Note: trump denies this ever happened, but I believe Kasich.
     
  11. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    "All Lives Matter!" That was the rallying cry as Trump supporters tackled, beat, and kicked a black protestor on November 21, 2015 at a Trump rally (or that may have been the date the video was posted). As this very ugly display of blatant racism played out you could hear Trump in the background yelling, "Get him out of here!"

    While the term "Black Lives Matter" has the implication of 'Black Lives matter too,' or 'Black lives matter as well,' the term "All Lives Matter" doesn't seem to have any meaning other than as a reactionary response to Black Lives Matter!
     
  12. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Trump has been volunteering handing out supplies to flood victims in Louisiana. Meanwhile Hillary takes the weekend off while Obama goes golfing.
     
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  13. Asmodean

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    Like he is commonly known to do more often. Solely for altruistic reasons of course.


    Taking the weekend off? Golf? How abominable! They must not care at all! :mickey:
     
  14. Meliai

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    Lol this is a photo op for Trump, nothing else.

    Also the governor of LA said he prefers Obama to stay away a week or two because a presidential visit would require resources (police, motor blockades, etc)

    Why is America so political anyways? Why can't we enjoy some heart warming human interest stories of self sufficiency coming out of Louisiana without making it about how Trump rulz and Obama drools?

    This is why we can't have nice things.
     
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  15. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    The switch in his campaign managers seems to suggest this style is actually working, in poll numbers anyway
     
  16. 6-eyed shaman

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    Exactly, it's like how he handled the BP oil spill 5 years ago. He was out playing golf when that happened.

    A leader's job is to provide help and support when an area of the country is in a crisis, is it not?

    Yes, indeed Trump doing it for a PR boost as well. But I didn't see Dubya doing much help during Katrina until his opponents grilled him for it. Not to mention Obama's slow reaction time to the BP oil spill.

    The left is just acting all butt hurt that they didn't think to take advantage of the opportunity first.
     
  17. Meliai

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    I don't really care, I guess that was my main point lol. I'm so sick of every little thing being political. Trump's visit won't help Louisiana in any way in the long run, but communities pulling together to help each other will
     
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    So, let me get this straight... He was supposed to immediately leave the golf course and plug the leak with his clubs. Otherwise=disinterested


    Or maybe, if he hadn't been playing golf in the first place the spill would never have happened... [​IMG]
     
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  19. 6-eyed shaman

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    The president is on call job 24/7 last time I checked. When national emergencies happen, they must respond, right? Obama continued his Martha's Vineyard vacation for a whole week after the oil spill began, refusing to cut his vacation short. And guess where he is now?
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-defends-oil-spill-response-cites-mistakes/



    Of course you won't believe that, but yeah.... whatever.
     
  21. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But it's okay when a Democrat does it. Plus Obama is black, so there is nothing wrong with it.
     
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  22. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Yes--that is right, he did so much to help Louisiana-----It was reported that he helped for an entire 49 seconds. Not 10 seconds mind you, not half a minute------it was almost a whole minute. The people of Louisiana are saved! Thank god.
     
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