We are all debating these things . . . the context as proof of objectivity, and contrary, the disproof. This tree is a very elaborate one, spanning out through the centuries. It's literature is vast, its believers many. We can try to prove or disprove every branch and flower that grows from this tree, but there is always an argument against an argument. Before we get to the branches, we should first look at the roots, to see if this tree in all its elaborate context is worth debating over. What is the heart of Christianity, if one could put it into words? We must first understand this. Then we must understand the human condition in relation to Christianity. What it offers us, what it is to us, truly, with no conditioning, indoctrination and belief. Beyond such things, what is its core? Factual center? This is such an important thing to discuss, because it has to do with us as human beings, and not just fact vs. fiction. See the root of the tree and thus understand what it brings forth. One may argue that we are the root, Christianity was born from us. One may argue it is from God (originally). The core question. The very center. This, above all, must be understood if one is to dedicate their lives to this, or to another thing. Perhaps no things at all. This must be discussed in order to understand. So, let us discuss.
I think it may be more than one tree Burns. At least one of them is a rousting place for vultures, sown in bullshit, watered with the sweat of the masses and the blood of reasonable men.
And why has this happened? I seek to understand that. I seek to understand if the teaching has validity in and of itself. Of course, we see man's brutality, we see the division and horrors we can produce. What does this say about the teaching? Does it mean it is incapable of working with our nature? Or does it mean we must try harder? What is the core teaching?
So, what is love? We are to love God with all of our hearts and mind and strength. Does this not mean we are to love unconditionally? What is love? This absolute love? Can we discover and express such love when we are so divided? When I am a Christian and you are a Hindu, when I am a Protestant and you are a Catholic? Can such fragmentation lead us all to true love? Does it allow true love to be? If ignorance is our nature, then we are doomed. Always doomed until the judgement day. But, let's look at this, shall we? Why are we ignorant? What allows us to do horrid things, evil things? What happens in us that lets us be selfish? Is it evil? Satan? Is that it? If that is so, we are not looking deeply into the matter, are we? To put the burden of our flaws upon the exterior forces. Let us examine ourselves, look into ourselves, understand ourselves. If we were to find the cause of our ignorance, would that allow true love to flow through? Is it possible, once discovering the cause, understanding why we are ignorant, to no longer be ignorant? Can we then be aware? Can we then see beyond our selfishness and fragmentation, and observe what is true?
You gotta put a / before the QUOTE at the end of the quote: [] replaced with () so it doesn't code: (quote) This is the quote. (/quote) will give you this when you use []: If you wanna insert a name into the quote you go: (quote=NaykidApe) Kharakov Rules!!! (/quote) which gives you:
almost got it man, but you gotta replace the () with []. He only used () in his example so that it wouldn't code and you could see the general method.
Ah hah! Thanks Trippin (this was the only thing keeping me from true enlightenment. Well, that and all that other stuff...)
Every time I see your name Burn I start singing Disco Inferno. I just realized this. I'm not thinking such deep thoughts right now
