Does our brain get faster on LSD?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by inthydreams911, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

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    have any of you heard the sound acid makes in your head, its like an old wash machine spinning, or a rusty gear spinning, sounds like a swoosh in a circular motion, and you can feel it in your head, spinning around. every time the circle in your head comes a round, it makes another swooshing sound. im a poet and didn't even know it. haha. anyways the higher the dose is, the faster this thing goes. a lot of times you don't feel it or hear it though, when you do your usually peeking. on ten hits of acid i heard it the most the time pretty much, well if i concentrated if it was there or not, but yea it was going so fast that it began to began to form like one constant sound, and the pich was louder. thats as far as it went tho. any of you experience something like this? possibly related to that sound you hear on dmt?
     
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  3. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

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    in deep meditation i feel like im everything and my body is in me.
     
  4. A Bathing Ape

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    the faster we go the rounder we get.
     
  5. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    and even though we're moving vertically along the line that is our spine ((sine))
    if you move into 3D

    when you go up
    you're really going out (macrocosm)
    when you go down
    you're really going in (microcosm)

    so in other words, Ape, I loved your sentence. :)
     
  6. MovedOn

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    Yes I know this noise. What the hell is it? I described it as a buzzing sound that goes in circles around your head. It sounds like it's really far away, theres alot of reverb and echo.

    Whats interesting, me and my friend on LSD actually both heard the buzzing noise in the same position around us.

    Whats even weirder about that noise though, is not the noise. But the perception of the shape of the volume that this noise is contained within. It's like a big room. It's like the walls of the universe. Feels like you just poked your head right up into that singular point in the pyramid, the highest point in all fathomable existence, and it's surrounded by a large torus like room. With some ball of energy buzzing around.

    another thing thats quite odd about it is. When I first heard this thing. It didn't seem foreign to me at all. But rather it just immediately felt like millions of people have popped up there and pondered wtf that noise is.
     
  7. stalk

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    I truly believe it's the neuroelectricity oscillating to the frequency of what brains state you are in

    in combination with

    the "other" realms...
     
  8. StonerBill

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    Very skeptical about theories that unite physical frequencies with neuro-frequencies.

    Ive not heard this sound and I dont think It has anything to do with your brain because the brain functions on many simultaneous frequencies that dont have anything to do with the sorts of frequencies that we associate with sound. In fact, brain waves arent even sinusoidal. They are more like populations of 'clicks' because neurons send information to eachother in the form of a pulse of around 60-200 hertz. The speed of the pulse does determine in part the information sent. In this way, it can seem like sound because varying frequencies are transmitted across your brain. But except in the most pristine, unworldly states of mediation or unconsciousness, these frequencies on the whole are disruptive of eachother. When we detect them externally, we are only detecting the overall summation of all of the waves together. It would be rather rare that the brain started firing in total synchonicity, which is sort of implied by the idea that this whirling sound is a harmony of the brainwaves.
    But the signals that come from your ear - as well as those that go through your brain.. they are translated into a pulse that doesnt in any way correspond to the sensation of sound that they represent. Your ear is full of neurons and they each correspond to frequencies, and they all fire at a speed that is relative to the intensity of a frequency, not the frequency itself.
    Thus, sound, in terms of the brain, is not a frequency, but a quality that is defined by the specific neurons that fire. There is no internal representation of the sound which corresponds to the sound's actual qualities.
    The same is the case for colour - we do not sense colour base don its frequency perse, we have three (or four) receptors in our eyes which each respond to different frequencies. Our brain infers the quality of the colour depending on the configuration of active neuronal circuits.
    The signals that are generated when light hits neurons are in no way related in freuqncy to the frequencies that hit the sensory organs. A translation procedure occurs whereby none of the original data continues into the brain. Everything we hear or see or sense from the outside world goes into a computer that has its own unique language for every sensation.
    When we trip out, we might start generating worlds with this language in ways that our sense organs never quite inform.

    But the frequencies that we qualitatively hear in some sort of auditory psychedelic effect.. well they dont correlate at all to the frequencies that are occuring inside the brain. They correlate to a specific configuration of neurons that correlates with certain qualities of sound. And this configuration is in turn connected to the ear in a way that external physical frequencies can be translated into this configurational language.

    Thats not to say that the whirling sound doesnt associate with some frequency of brainstates - the speed which the sound changes (eg, the speed which it whirls around you) would be associated with a frequency of activation.. but that is the same with absolutely any sensation that is itself fluctuating to a certain degree.

    But when we hear frequencies or see colour, we are enver aware of the actual rate of change in the stimulus. only the change -of- the stimulus
     
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    I can hear my neuroelectricity right now.

    I can even alter the pitch of it depending on what state of mind I am in...

    be as skeptical as you wish.
     
  10. StonerBill

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    but there is no 'pitch' eminating from or ruminating within the brain in neuroelectrical terms, so what is defining the frequency of the sound that you hear?
     
  11. stalk

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    there are many frequencies, and then there is the general operating frequency which oscillates and permeates the space surrounding.
    (the operating frequency being much more of a feeling and a visualization rather than actually hearing because it's below 20hz...but I can most definitely feel it and see how it rippling through the space that surrounds me)

    they fluctuate depending on mode

    it sounds like light

    if you go into a sound deprivation chamber, all you hear is bloodflow and neuroelectricity...

    I'm extremely sensitive to sound and have become synesthetic over the years, so it's very hard for me to convey what it is I'm trying to explain

    I'm hearing it with both my ears and my "third ear" so to speak at the same time.

    I've used this symphony created by myself to travel through dimensions.

    I know how insane all of this sounds...it's my life.

    You do not hear it?
     
  12. StonerBill

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    I have never been in pure silence.. there is always some sound. even if it is my body. But lacking any synthaesetic tendencies, ive never heard anything other than sound. If I have heard strange things in trips, it has always correlated to something external in my memory, so perhaps I am not sensitive to the hum or perhaps I am ignoring it, or perhaps it has always appeared to me as coming from the distortion of some external event
     
  13. stalk

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    maybe...
    I can even hear it right now sitting at my computer with music on...I mean...it's LOUD!

    It feels like blue fire on the top of my head when I am on acid...It's truly remarkable...

    I'm trying to figure it all out too, man...
     
  14. ad10

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    when i trip i tend to get a sound in my head (though not always) that is like an extremely long metal pipe going through my head from ear to ear and as the sound goes through it hits the metal pipe it bounces around and creates a phaser sort of effect.
    thats probably the best way i can explain it.
     
  15. xXzXx

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    Based on my own opinion, I would say, that these perpetual sounds of swooshing or feelings of some kind of rhytmical beats, undefinable clacks or other sounds are nothing more and nothing less than manifestations of our thought processes in their true forms. As rational as it might sound, there probadly is much more to this topic on a higher spiritual level, than any of us could imagine, but still. My idea is, that all the actions in neural and other psysiological ways as StonerBill suggested, act pretty much simultaneously and seem to lack a defined order, therefore being unable to form a harmonious sound, such as is a rhytm. But, presuming life organizes itself in unbelievably compex procedures by utilizing seemingly boundless equations, even thoughts and our lives are affected by affinity or resonance of these patterns, that underline our minds' functions. By this exact connection between every last of our distinctly different theories and views of ourselves and the imaginary world around, these "beat signals" could be compared to signals passing through the parts of brain, which stand for sensation processing functions and therefore visualize themselves as sounds, but missing some onworldly proportions, which we may simiralize as our own synaesthesic abilities, but in the end, they keep on being quite indescribable and remain as these "beat signals" as I mentioned before when trying to characterize them to someone else. Then it would only matter if either the individual is in need of this, let's perhaps say a guidance, to help him organize or imagine and order his ideas in some more accessible form of memory data or information, or he is able to accomplish this by using other means of intellectual fabrication. Whether one, or the another, it seems like it's only a matter of personal preference as it is in most life situations considering the unconsciousness of our everyday actions.
     
  16. stalk

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    wow it's official we're all insane.
     
  17. xXzXx

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    Couldn't agree more on that with you, Stalk. :)
     
  18. StonerBill

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    Dont worry guys, I'm one of two sane persons on the planet. Hopefully the other is a beautiful psychedelic goddess
     
  19. stalk

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    Hopefully! [​IMG]
     
  20. neodude1212

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    dude stalk I think you are talking about OM
     
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