Do your believe it's right to buy/sell pets?

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by Elle, Apr 17, 2005.

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Do you believe it's right to buy/sell animals?

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  2. No.

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  3. I don't know.

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  4. I don't care.

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  1. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    buying animals from pet shops I disagree with on every level. I personally wouldn't buy from a breeder with the pet population being as out of control as it is and so many homeless & needy animals (not to mention the ones who end up in abusive homes and then end up at the pound as a result). I think its a huge problem that society in general needs to take alot more seriously and it would help if everyone directly supported their local shelter. I strongly disagree with breeding for profit....and I believe profit is the reason most people breed animals. I think that's just wrong......esp with our current situation. But even without that aspect "selling" animals implies that they are "items" and "possessions" which they are not.
     
  2. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    My grandparents used to breed dogs for fun....I fail to see anything wrong with it, if someone wants a pure bred dog that they know the medical and genetic history of then whats the problemo? i'd get a dog from a pound or a breeder depending on what sorta dog i wanted....puppy/kitten farms are wrong but breeders who breed because they love dogs are fine
     
  3. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    hmm... i worked at a pet store almost all my life.. sense i was 13... not all pet stores support puppy/kitty farms... it is kind of sad but even so... if no one bought the kittens from the stores theyd just end up in the pound/humane society like the rest of them... everyone should help rescue a cat or dog from the pound before they kill it from lack of space
     
  4. clawsy

    clawsy Member

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    i think it sucks, there are millions of dogs and cats being killed in shelters, because no one wants them. why is this? because they aren't looking a certain way...they don't have papers to say they are this or they are that.. I think breeders are horrible, and so are the people who buy bred animals.

    It makes me cringe that people are so worried about a 'breed' that they ignore animals dying at the shelter.

    Why are they getting a dog? As some warped kind of status symbol or as a toy or something? Isn't saving a dogs life from a shelter more important than the dog being 'bred'.

    What a lack of compassion and mercy, that is just horrible imo. Get an animal from a shelter and save it's life!
     
  5. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    I agree.

    And mui, it's true that if no one bought kittens from pet shops that they would end up at the pound....but on the flip side theres the supply and demand....if no one supports pet shops selling animals eventually they wouln't sell animals anymore. I don't think I'll see that happening in my lifetime but it's a nice thought. I don't agree with "selling" animals like products. Keeping them in a little cage for people to come in and poke and prod at them like some show case. "oh look at the cute kitties.....makes me feel all fuzzy inside" When I see animals in pet shops it makes me so sad. At the very least breeders don't usually cage their animals like that. Or do they? Atleast not any breeders I've come in contact with.
     
  6. SilverClover14

    SilverClover14 Senior Member

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    I can see a point to breeders- if you are in a situation where you require a certain temprement in dogs, then obviously getting one from a breeder is the way to go. Otherwise, I completely support getting animals from the pound. We were going to get a dog from the pound until my uncle's (who was a breeder at one point) dogs had puppies rather unexpectedly, so he gave us one of them and she's the most precious thing ever. I don't think the problem is breeding so much as people who don't get their animals fixed. Unless you're a breeder or live on a farm or something, there should be strict laws requiring all pets to be fixed. As cruel as it may sound, that's really the only way to solve the problem.

    And pet stores aren't all that bad. I know at the one I go to for my puppy's stuff, they house all the humane society's cats there and it's a good way for them to be adopted since the humane society itself doesn't have a permanent building. All the dogs have to be placed in foster homes until they're adopted as it is, which makes it hard because many of the dogs end up having to be put to sleep because there's no place for them. :( So pet stores can be very, very helpful to pet adoptions.
     
  7. Syntax

    Syntax Senior Member

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    I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's not something that I'd do. I prefer to take one of the cats or dogs in need of a loving home from the shelter, or from people's houses where they just happened to breed.
     
  8. hippyman

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    I think if anyone wants a pet, they should get them from a shelter. That's where I got my cat from. There are so many animals there that just want someone to love them, it makes me sick. Its pathetic that so many animals have to get put down every day.
     
  9. Myranya

    Myranya Slytherin Girl

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    Usually I'd say get a cat or dog from a shelter, but if you really want a breed for a special purpose (for example a sheep dog you really want to work with, not just for fun) you probably want to buy one from a breeder... Buying from a reputable breeder isn't necessarily bad.
    Also when offering pets, like kittens, it's often a good idea to charge a small fee and not offer them completely free; it may stop people from picking them up for things like testing, or abuse... Only those who really want a pet will pay for it, and your kitten won't go to some shithead who'll make a 'kill-a-kitten' video or something sick like that... Or even just anyone who hasn't given it any thought & doesn't want to spent a penny on a pet, and will kick it out first time it needs vet care or anything.
     
  10. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    that brings up a good point... giving away k ittens for free, offering them in newspapers is a bad idea... some sick fuckers actually will feed their snakes kittens and things like that if you give them the right deal... working in the pet industry, i've seen sick motherfuckers many times... guys who fucked rabbits, guys who fed kittys to snakes, its crazy.
     
  11. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    Yes.When you own an animal its more like you are a slave to the animal lol.You are doing it a favor by buying form the wacky breeder and giveing it a good home.
     
  12. Sus

    Sus Hip Forums Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    My shih tzu was purchased from a reputable breeder. She is the first dog I have ever had, and I needed a dog with a certain kind of termperament, size, etc. I also needed a dog that was reputed as being an "easy" dog for a first time owner...none of these things could have been guaranteed by getting a dog from the pound. I am absolutely an advocate of getting a dog or cat from a shelter (my cat was a stray, but I have had cats all of my life, and felt comfortable with adopting a cat from the shelter) when possible, but sometimes it, for various reasons, just doesn't work. Now that I am a little more familiar with dogs (little dogs, that is!), I would consider getting a dog from a shelter in the future.
     
  13. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    I got my cat from the house i lived at(at the time).... it would come around every day... someone just dropped her off in the middle of winter and i brought her in becuase she was all skinny and sickly looking and i took care of her.... she gave me a kitten and is looking prego again(she escaped from my apt for a few days)
     
  14. RainbowCat

    RainbowCat Senior Member

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    ya, but animals cant sell themselves. and you cant let animals out in the wild (well, you can, but many of them would get hurt or killed, due to the inexperience of living a life on their own AND out side) sure, it is slavery, but, unlike slaves, some of the animals are then brought to homes where they are taken good care of and seen as part of the family
     
  15. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    That's why I support local shelters. There is a fee to adopt an animal but that fee is put toward the shelter's expenses.....medical care for the animals and such. It's far from slavery. It's adoption. Slavery is seen in pet shops. I doubt anyone who really cares for animals advocates letting them free into the wild. That's just crazy. But treating animals like slaves or "products" is wrong. I mean, would it be ok to enslave people so long as they were not necessarily abused by their "owners" and placed in a "good home"? No, so why is it ok to do that to animals? People only do it because they can......because animals are defensless against it. Shelters are in the best interest of the animal. Pet shops are not. And breeders....well I guess that depends but it's wrong that people breed animals for nothing more than to make a profit for themselves.
     
  16. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

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    i like pure bred dogs. i like mutts too. but once i can afford to feed a dog, ill prolly get a pure bred husky. i have no problem with breeders. as far as overpopulation goes . . .. well whatcha gonna do?
     
  17. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    Spaying and neutering your animals and supporting the local shelters would be a start. The problem cannot be solved overnight, but over lots of time if everyone pitched in and helped the best they could things would improve.
     
  18. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    I've had three pets in my adult life - all adopted, though one of them, my cat Jazzmin, I gladly paid $90 for at the local Humane Society. I most recently brought home a 7 week kitten, Blues, whom a wonderful old lady gave me for free.

    I'm not against breeders at all, as there are many great breeds of both cats and dogs out there that I feel should be maintained over time. That being said, I am all for adoption - giving an animal a loving home that they deserve. Without people like myself who will happily adopt them, they might get put to sleep, so to me the choice is quite obvious.
     
  19. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

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    i think choppin an animals woohoo is about as mean as you can get. im more of a let nature take its course person. let em breed, let em free let em fight let em die, the more a person tries to control nature, the more nature will rebel.
     
  20. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    this I disagree with

    if you have that belief about animals, then I'd imagine you also, as a human amimal, don't believe in birth control or condoms.

    do you truly believe that we should let nature take its course? or is that feeling only for those in nature who use four legs to walk?
     
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