Do you want a war with Russia?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gardener, Sep 12, 2008.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I don't. I don't think Russia's reaction to Georgia's attack on the citizens of South Osettia should lead us into another war. What it should lead us to is an understanding of how some ethnicities are looked upon as less than human, and I think that's exactly what Georgia's attack on South Osettia was. They attacked an area they felt wasn't worthy of humane consideration. And they were armed and supported in their efforts with US funds and military resources.

    Why should we feel compelled to support Georgia's ethnic cleansing? Because a pipeline crosses that area...haven't we fallen for that before. Let's get off oil and perhaps we couldn't be manipulated any longer.

    Tell Cheney and company to stick it!
     
  2. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    Why do you always say "we"
    man, I have NO part in any of this
    I just woke up here!

    Russia just sent some bomber planes down to Venezuela.

    Get ready for a hell of a lot of bullshit.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Aren't we(the US) planting nukes in Poland pointed at Russia?
     
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    stalk Banned

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    No, WE ARE NOT

    Maybe they are

    but I sure as fuck am not, sir
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  6. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    No, why do you keep saying that , have ANY proof?

    They are NOT Nukes and they wont be pointed at Russia,they don't point at anything .

    You have absolutely no idea what this war was about do you ?

    Ugh, .
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think that's just what we are doing under Bush/Cheney and what Palin will support, I am not sure our economy can support it.

    http://voanews.com/english/2008-09-10-voa12.cfm

     
  8. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    How dense are you ?
    You post a link to a story that says the US is placing Interceptor Missile Shield "which is NON-Nuclear"


    And your same story/link tells how Russia will be pointing ICBM's "which are nuclear" at Turkey, how the fuck did you miss that ?
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think I have a better understanding of what this all about than you do. And if we are not planting missiles in central Europe, then I guess all the news reports are wrong.

    You can't expect to point a weapon against someone and not have them point one against you.,
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Is the UN and their inspectors going to oversee our installations?
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    You point a loaded gun at someone, you shouldn't be surprised if they point a bigger one at you.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  13. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Don't forget, Russian Navy Vessels,
    Peter The Great Guided Missile Cruiser, and supporting fleet,are being sent too.

    They "Russia" do have plans to have anti-sub planes in Venezuela.
     
  14. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Not even close, haha.

    No, just you are wrong, show me 1 news report that says we are putting NUKES in Poland, just 1.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    If I was Russia I'd be ramping up too. Sarah Palin seems to be pro war with Russia as does McCain. The problem is who's going to pay for this?
     
  16. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Wow, why waste my time.

    Missile Interceptors are defensive, ICBM's are offensive.

    If someone points a loaded gun "Russia" at you "Georgia/Europe" should we be surprised they beg for something to defend themselves?


    Russia has had a big fucking gun pointed at Georgia "and the rest of Europe", for the last 60 years with not 1 bad word from you.
     
  17. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Coming from the guy who just 2 minutes ago stated he knew more about this than I, again clueless baseless claims.


    If you know more than i prove it, instead of digging yourself in deeper.
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am sure no news media would even venture to say the great US is amping up to a nuclear conflict. But if you wish to point missiles towards another country you should be willing to accept they are going to point some at you as well.

    I guess Israel and the US never used depleted uranium bombs in the middle east, but I guess those don't figure into the nuke category. They kill and continue to kill long after the conflict, but you can't be called up for using nukes in that case. Much like deaths caused by Blackwater cant't be ajudicated because of executive order.
     
  19. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Where are Russian Missiles pointed?

    Where are Polish Missiles pointed, oh wait Poland doesn't have ANY.Yet.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Perhaps you could explain, why Georgia bombed South Osettia?
     
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