Do you think America is Babylon?

I am a strong believer that this is true. Although I would not consider myself a devout Ras Tafari. Their views of spirituality and their accounts of the Bible, the Prophets, and History are fascinating and seem more possible than any other religion ive encountered in my quest. Yet back to the question DO YOU THINK AMERICA with its devout Materialism is Babylon reborn? When money is god to 80% of the people Ive ever met, I tend to think so. AND the lord GOD shall strike down Babylon. FOr she is the mother of all harlots, I believe the saying goes. Nimrod shall not steal our freedom again threw his trickery.

 

I and I do not think - I and I know that Amerikkka is Babylon.

One Love
Prophet7

 

Yea so how do we let the truth prevail. If we can't chant down babylon, then how do we escape her wickedness. One love is right my friend.

 

It is more the western train of thought, the western lifestyle, that is Babylon reborn, because the concepts and principles that make america such a terrible place exist elsewhere as well (though they are much stronger here). The west is based on material excess, and is all about finding the "easier way to enlightenment," even if it means casting one's heritage, history, and rituals aside. This descends directly from babylon, and the Tower of Babel. Seeing as america is the capital of western society and "advancement," if one place were to be called babylon reborn, this would undoubtedly be it.

 

Yea im aware of Babylonian Ideals, and that they come straight from Ancient Babylon. I have two questions now.

The world trade center. In the bible the Tower of babel was a place of commerce, and due to its corruption and potential dangerous power god confused the languages of man, so they could no longer understand or live side by side with each other. I now refer to the World Trade Center as the Twin Towers of Babel. One world united under currency can never work.

How do we return to Zion? Where do I find information of the lifestyle during the golden age before Nimrod and Babylonian and cities, and materials, and living hells, and demons possessing men. I want to go back, and I would take the world with me if it saved them.

 

As a Christian, I believe America is Babylon based on the descriptions of Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Revelation 18. I had just written a research paper on this topic. You would be suprised in how many Christian theologians believe this theory. The Babylon descriptions fit no other nation but AMERICA.

 

Yup listen to this

in the bible it says the king of Babyon had a dream where he saw an idol
The idol had a golden head which represented his kingdom
it had a ......I think a steel chest but im not sure which repersents the Med-Persian kingdom which would destroy his kingdom
it had copper(i think not sure) waist that reperesented Greace under the rule of Alexander the great who destroyed the Med-Persian kingdom
then it had iron legs wich repersented the Roman Empire who beat Alexander the Great(and killed Jesus)
and then it had clay feet which repersentes America/England
Then he drempt that god took a stone and threw at the feet and the idol fell to the ground broken.

Dont belive me look in the book of Danlie(Misspelled )

 

I and I know this to be true.

Jah bless and One Love

 

i and i know this to be true as well.
btw, smokey, i love ur siggy. "war" is definitely one of my fave Bob Marley songs.
jah bless,
pakalolo

 

I an I speak alot for Jah. But I an I should let Jah do the speaking. Babylon the whore is Iraq where all the nations have gone to fornicate, and have left a wasteland.

 

Babylon (in the Bible) refers to a revived Roman empire...it seemed like you wanted an answer like this. But no, I don't believe it's america. I believe it's got something to do with the Pope. ('the whore of Babylon will wear ambellishes of Gold, and Robes of Purple and scarlet' hmmm...that's the cardinal/Pope's colors. And the 'whore that sits on 7 hills'...So does Rome! the Vartiken.)

Sorry if this is not the answer you're looking for, but it sounds like it...

 

Check it babylon resides with each man, as long a he can hold hatred or take life for granted. Zion is infinite appreciation to JAH. Babylon is the moment where a human takes the life JAH gave them for granted see

 

FROM A PAPER I WROTE LAST YEAR:

Coombes says today the most popular theory of the identity of Babylon is modern day
Rome (1). Coombes stated this view goes back to when John first wrote Revelation but later died after Christianity became the dominant force in world interactions (1). However, Coombes declares the theory of Rome later resurrected in the 1800’s when it was thought that the Harlot of Revelation 17 was the Catholic Church, and the city described in Revelation 18 was the revived Roman Empire (1). To this day, this theory is what many theologians believe that Rome will once again become a world power (1). Dave Hunt, author of A Woman Rides the Beast, tells the two main reasons for this theory. First, in Revelation 17:9 Babylon is described as a city that sits on seven hills and Rome also literally is built on seven hills (1). Second, in Revelation 17:6 and 18:24 Babylon is described as a city that persecutes prophets and saints so it is concluded that this is a clear reference to the Roman Inquisitions (11). With these descriptions in mind Dave Hunt and many other theologians have reasoned that the Catholic Church, specifically the Vatican, is what John is describing in Revelation (2).
In response, Carl E. Olson, author of the article “The Time is Near: Five Common Misinterpretations of the Book of Revelation,” says that although the Vatican is on hill, it is not one of seven hills that Rome sits on. The seven hills that Rome is built on are located east of Tiber River where as the Vatican hill is to the west (Olson 4). Also, in regards to the persecution of the saints, 18:24 states, “And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.” R.A. Coombes, author of Alpha and Omega Report, an online prophecy magazine, raises the question, how can Rome be punished for all the people of the Earth (1)? The magazine brings up the point, that it is not a matter of who killed the prophets and saints but accountability for all that have been killed (4). Simply put, God will center his entire wrath on this one empire for all that have been killed even though Babylon is not responsible for all the murders of the earth. Jeremiah 51:49 explains that Babylon is found guilty because it has “caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of the earth” (4).

Also, in the book United States in Prophecy by Edward Tracy, Rome is considered the place where the Antichrist will emerge and form his empire, but Babylon is completely separate from it. For it is pictured in Revelation 14 through the second and third angel that Babylon will be destroyed before the Beast comes to power (76). Therefore, although Rome does play a major part in the end times it is completely separate from Babylon because Babylon is destroyed before Rome and the antichrist comes to power. Yet, this explanation is the least of the problems for the people that hold to the Rome theory. Ultimately, the descriptions of Babylon do not match the description of modern day Rome nor will they ever. For example, S. Franklin Logsdon author of Is the U.S.A in Prophecy? explains that Babylon is described as the youngest country. One of these descriptions is found in Jeremiah 50:12: “Behold the hindermost of nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.” The key word in this passage is “hindermost” (28). Dictionary.com describes hindermost as “Farthest to the rear; last.” In other words, Babylon is the last country to be established. America became officially a nation in 1776 and is the youngest country today, whereas the city of Rome was not established until the middle of the fourth century (Tracy 26).

 

yes it is babylon

 

I and I think this man gots it right.

See America is only an outer representation of whats going on in the bald-heads Babylonian mind, see? If he had a clean mind America would become Zion. Its all in your head, eyes open or closed.

 

Not just America would I consider Bablyon...any country that deals in oppressing and enslaving of Africa's children would I consider Babylon...Netherlands, America, UK, Germany...Colonisation is the root of evil, not a country, and the people who only love money is cause they have not found Jah.​

 

Isaiah 13

A Prophecy Against Babylon

5 They come from faraway lands,
from the ends of the heavens—
the LORD and the weapons of his wrath—
to destroy the whole country.

 

Would this verse in the Bible not actually be revering to Babylon...the place? Like the world power, enslaved all of Isreal's children...and if you are reading some sort of prophecy against Bablyon today into this verse, it's not very clear as to what it is!

 

This is true the Babylon spoke in Isaiah 13, Jeremiah 50 & 51, and Revelation 18 is not the literal ancient Babylon found in modern day Iraq. Infact, it is a future empire that is why it is spoken of in the book of Revelation. Here are a few qualifications of this future Babylon

Babylon dwells on many waters, and has abundant treasures. (Jeremiah 51:13)
Babylon is a land filled with people from other lands and is a land of mingled people. (Jeremiah 50:16) (Jeremiah 50:37 )

When Babylon is destroyed, her great voice will be silenced. (Jeremiah 51:55)

God addresses the Jews living in Babylon. (Jeremiah 51:45 to 50) (Revelation 18:4)
The merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. (Revelation 18:3)

Babylon glorifies herself. (Revelation 18:7)

The nations stream to Babylon. (Jeremiah 51:44)

Babylon is described as a country. (Isaiah 13:5)

Babylon has a mother (Jeremiah 50:12)

 

First, I apologize for not quite veling able to quote all the different arguments in one, but here I go (please remember, I do welcome you, since you seem to have some intense and intelligent arguments to bring.

Babylon dwells on many waters, and has abundant treasures. (Jeremiah 51:13)

When Bablyon was brought down, by the Persians (if I remember correctly, you must apologize, but I do not have a Bible right of hand) used the river that flowed through Bablyon, so I do believe that this verse refers to the actual Bablyon.

Babylon is a land filled with people from other lands and is a land of mingled people. (Jeremiah 50:16) (Jeremiah 50:37 )

Bablyon was known to keep the most intelligent and smartest of all conqured people, and letting them practice their Faith, as well as letting all people live as free people, until it came to them leaving, but also letting them keep their native tonque.

I do believe that the bible has soom references to the modern Bablyon, but I also believe that Man must be careful not to be tricked by reading to much into the word of Man...But I do have the out most respect for you to do research for your project.

Jah Bless...Love Heile Selassie I.