Do you realize?

That if every single soul on this planet obeyed God and his word(the bible) the world would be PERFECT! It would. Ever think of that? Do you think that is why there IS a bible? I do.

 

what are you talking about?
if every word of the bible was obeyed by every1, the world would be pure hell
are you forgetting the bible says its ok to take slaves..are you forgetting that it also says its okto rape murder and enslave if you do it in gods name

theres some good stuff in the bible sure
but theres just as much that contradicts every bit of good
the bible has caused far more evil in the world then its done good
but honnestly..if people just gave up religios seperation entirely..and the need to be always right
then..the world could be perfect

 

Wow. Your wrong in just about every way. Your post makes me sick. To say the bible has done more bad than good? to say "if people just gave up religios seperation entirely..and the need to be always right then..the world could be perfect", dude....no. Christains make the world go round buddy. A true christain doesnt steal, lie, cheat, commit adultery, and all that evil.

 

Its worked for the past 2000 years!

The problem isnt that people dont follow the bible, its that people who are big on the bible go to countries and activly push it and lie and use fear in order to convert people to Christianity.

Dont you find it interesting that priests cant marry? Traditionally if someone dies and has no one to leave the land to they leave it to the priest. When the priest dies, he has no heirs and the Church gets the land. In some countrys the church is the largest landowner.

The bible is a nice story with good lessons in it, but no one NEEDS these lessons, we all have within us the power to differentiate between right and wrong. Those who need weekly reminders and threats are weak. IMO.

 

what world doyou live in?
odviosly not the real world where preists rape lil boys then go off and absolve your sins..lol

come on man. look around you
we're in world war 3..all because religios freaks wanna prove theyre gods the right god
how many bodies prove your gods the bigger bully?

 

lol... thats funny.

I know lots of people who consider themselves to be "true christians" and then walk right by the guy begging on the street. I know "true christians" who beat the hell out of a Muslim brother just because they wanted to.

Some of the meanest SOBs I know are "true christians", all "Jesus saves" and "WWJD". Jesus wouldn't ignore a brother with polio when it would cost 10 cents to vacinate him. Jesus wouldn't hate a man just because he was Muslim.

If people could follow the teachings of most major religions the world would be a much better place... Christians don't own the market on good teachings my friend.

 

If I can take this beyond absolute lying hatred about 'slaves', assaulting muslims or some asshole using the rape of children as a way to 'get some hurt' on a Christian.

I think you would have to be right because what was the perfect commandment superceding all others:
Love one another.

IF you could have an entire planet being perfected in Christs love then pretty much every problem starts solving itself.
We certainly wouldnt need any more legal system or war machines.
No more religions, no more rampant materialism.
Abusing children (and anyone) would not even be heard of.

Of course, we dont expect to see us humans get all the way there in this state of affairs, in this era.
Hence the blessed hope of the Church for Christ to return and establish his Kingdom on Earth.
But for those of us who are gone before then - that world awaits us.
Pretty exciting.

But for sure you do raise a very intriguing point.
Its too bad some people in here have abso-fucking-lutely no idea what Christianity is,
How it works,
Yet,
They feel the need to use victims of horrific abuse to further their own hateful little agendas.
The reason they do this - because they know you are right and it just burns a hole in them.
Its not you they hate though.
Its themselves.

 

If everybody followed Christ's TRUE message- one of love for each other, respect for yourself and others, and peace and charity for everyone, even your enemy, then there would be no need for a bible. Especially one that has distorted Christs words and put him on a pedastal comparable to God. Misinterpretation of Christ's true message has created a culture of human-worship and polytheism. The revolutionary Christ has been long forgotten and replaced with the 'perfect deity' Christ we all know of. And besides, much of the old testament has been twisted to give power to those in power. Obeying Jewish law (as prescribed by the pharisses) and forgetting true Love (We even failed to realize this EVEN after Christ was sent to remind us of it). And to think of the shit that gets carried out in His name.

 

No it wouldn't. In christianity you ask for your sins to be forgiven and they are. That means sin would still go on and nothing would change because its the exact same. (This was coming from a biblical standpoint just to be on the same grounds with the OP)

 

you mean the new testament, mortes? In the old testament, things such as wearing clothes with two types of material (wool and cotton for example) would be enough for God to punish you. (and burn out your eyes if i'm not mistaken... i'll have to check leviticus again )
Old testament= eye for eye, tooth for tooth
New testament= forgiveness

that's where our translation of salvation is skewed a bit. A majority of christians believe that salvation is through grace. i.e. if you ask for forgiveness (or salvation) you are forgiven, you don't need to make any sacrifice or even learn any lessons from it. No need to make it up to the person you've sinned against or make things right, just ask for forgiveness and Jesus will forgive you. I agree with you on the point that sin would go on and nothing would change. that happens all too often in 'mainstream christianity' If just being sorry were enough to warrant forgiveness, all Hitler would have had to do was say "Jesus i'm sorry... forgive me" and it would be done. He would be absolved of all wrongdoings.

 

I think not. Things like diseases would still exist, there would still be genetic inequalities etc. What we'd end up with would be a stagnant culture based on fear.

 

Im sorry, scratch that. If everyone thought the words WWJD before the act, then the world would be a better place. Jesus was the ultimate example on us humans. If we all tryed 100% to be like he was, then the world would be a perfect place. Thats why jesus came to earth in the first place.

 

agreed 100%. ^

 

lunatic!! how goes it?

 

tisk tisk on me for spamming. sorry!

 

Plain & Simple...

The bible is a man made document-therefore it is failable...

 

Indeed, you have to see some things apart. If everyone followed the ten commandments because everyone really believes and go for it, it may be would seem perfect. The bible is written and translated a lot of times by humans and should never be followed just like that.
Also, the church is not christianity like Jesus wanted. When Jesus was around christianity wasn't even a religion yet. Most things Jesus Christ believed in has been properly raped by the Catholic church. The protestant church isn't perfect at all neither, but I'm very glad people like Luther and John Wycliff came around. Otherwise we'd probably still believing what the fat, rich church was telling us and think we need priests for sacraments to get in heaven. Oh wait, some people still believe that, haha.

 

Hi Scottie didn't know you were on hipforums too.

It's highly unlikely from the evidence we have that Christ even wanted to form a new religion. He wanted a revolution of love and understanding. Perhaps if, oh, I don't know, he had actually written some of the bible himself it would be plausible that he wanted to form a new religion.

Asmodean, we also have people that believe that the KJVersion of the bible is God's Word and infallible. many protestants i've seen practically worship the bible.

 

True. There's no good form of organized christian religion (that I know).

 

We've all been surrounded by religion and most know about all about its good and bad.

I grew up a catholic but not a practicing one (dont worry, i never considered becoming a preist to the few who know me a bit). I thought about going back to it and once trying to console myself and my wrongdoings but if i did i wouldn't have been honest with myself and those (christians) who tried in vain to guide me in their own way. I even looked into Islam but that had even more rules and practices that were just beyond me.

Truth is there is no definitive proof of an Abrahamic god for sure, let olone any other. What god would impregnate a HUMAN with his own holy-spirited love juice?...thats just one of the many questions i ponder.