"Do you believe this?"

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Francisco, Feb 14, 2005.

  1. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    The Messiah testified, "Whosoever lives
    and believes in Me shall never die".

    And then The Messiah questioned,
    "Do you believe this?"

    Do you?

    If not, why not?

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
    ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  2. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I feel that He was sharing an important point, that our spirits are eternal. The only thing I think may not agree with His words is that I feel all of our spirits are eternal, whether we believe in Him or not. So His statement was a safe bet, if I am right. I believe in Him, but many Christians tell me that I don't believe in Him the right way. lol
     
  3. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    There is a more than just basic belief, but yet, that is the basis.
     
  4. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I more than just believe.........He is a great source of inspiration, and I am content in my heart with our relationship. It is private, doesn't require me to convert others, or worship Him, just to try to be more like Him, that's all.
     
  5. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

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    / could/nt put it any better myself /peace/
     
  6. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yes, i believe that. rather more along the lines of blackgaurd's explanation, though. thanks for that, man.
     
  7. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    So if you follow this belief right up till death.. you will always believe you will never die . So if the statement is true you feel good in the knowledge and you never die . If the statement is just the work of us humans and none of this god/jesus stuff is true your good because it won't matter.

    Me , i don't wish to waste my time while alive contemplating anything spiritual.. heck the pope gets to interprete the word of god .. who knows what people will be thinking in 50 years time.
     
  8. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    The key word is "whosoever" lives.

    "never die" can be interpreted as "you-ever die". If you know paradoxes exist, then you'll get what I'm saying. There is the "I", the 'you', and the 'who' that hold a distinction.

    The self ("I") cant die. But the "you" either can or cant die based on the physical body and the self. In hell and as hell the "you" can ever die and ever live one in the same because of how the soul is configured.

    Once the self is taken from this body (world), then that self is no longer as a "you" of that substance of body (world).

    Did you know that the "who" is based on the "what"? Some of us arent even as who we will truelly be as yet until the fulfillment. I say some because who the devil in general is as is in paradox which you can count as the true who their kind be even already. Me-I'm barely standing here.
     
  9. Francisco

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    been more than 1900 years and The Brethren of The Messiah
    yet believe the same, "Whoever lives and believes in The Messiah
    shall never die".

    50 years? but a vapor, a shadow, nothingness.

    ?"contemplating spiritual"? every breath(spirit) you take should
    reveal your need for spiritual food. it makes no difference what
    you believe, for in spite of you, you remain body, soul and spirit.
    many are held captive by a lying spirit and hope is you will seek
    out and look to The Truth, and not at the religious systems(one
    of which is "christianity") that are of this world and it's "god".

    Our Father, HE knows your need. seek HIM, while you yet breathe.

    For while there is breath, there is hope.

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
    ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  10. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I am sure the writers of the bible were as linguiticaly and metaphysically competent as you...heck they found the answers for all the questions.
     
  11. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    Amen, Spirit is Eternal!

    may you be of those who spend eternity with "Our Father"
    for many children have rejected HIM and the testimony of
    HIS Son, The Messiah.

    ?"christianity"? naught but a religous system that is of this world.

    seek Our Father, listen to HIM, and as The Messiah
    desire above all else:

    "not my will, But THY Will Be Done Father".

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
    ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  12. Francisco

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    Amen.......

    "to be more like Him"

    Father Help! and HE does.......

    Amen.......
     
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