Do you believe in marriage?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by Nisha, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    Do you believe in marriage, or do you think that you don't need to be married to lvie on life and that you're liek a free spirit and free love?

    I don't think we need marriage to live well or be complete.. ive heard of poeple marrying themselves. Poeple make such a big deal about it.. like in Bridget Jones Diary.. they were like oh you're not married yet, Jones? Are you're 30? .... you carry a ring on your finger and probably a batch of papers legally saying that you and so and so are gonna be together forever.. big deal . if you know that already then you dont need to get it like confirmed by other people..

    If you're gonna get married, (for me atleast) i already know that the guy has to keep me young forever- you just get that feeling... my mother is a good example. shes like 47 and is with my step dad,54. and they've beeen together for 12 years. they still shag and laugh and smoke joints and everything as if they were teenagers without any regrets or whatever. You dont wanna wake up one day when youre 70 and be like... feeling old and liek a grandmother and stuff ( and i m not saying grandmothers always feel old and wasted).

    so if youre getting married or already are, then i hope its with a man who is your best friend, your joker, your (maybe not if your celibate) good sex partner, your soul mate, your other half and who'll keep you young for years to come.
     
  2. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    I'm opposed to free love. It's the most idiotic idea known to humankind. I believe in having a committed relationship, but to me, marriage is unnecessary. I see no point in spending thousands and thousands of dollars just to announce something to my partner that we both already know. Plus, I hate weddings. I think they're cheesy, and I hate being the center of attention.

    -Kate
     
  3. mystical_shroom

    mystical_shroom acerbic

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    marriage frightens me..
     
  4. jamestowne

    jamestowne Member

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    Marriage is sacred and good but not to be taken lightly as it has been for hundreds of years. Free love is good but very dangerous as it is hard to do it without causing a lot of emotional pain. But the ceremony of marriage is just for show it's what the ceremony is supposed to represent that is important. so... yeah, if two were in love two would not need to get married.

    I've heard of dumber things than free love
     
  5. xthevalkyriex

    xthevalkyriex Member

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    Yeah, I kind of believe "free love" was invented so that guys could f*** numerous women, and then never speak to them again.

    In any event, I believe in marriage, but only when both people involved are truly ready. Marrying because you think you should be hitched by a certain age, or because you're expecting a baby, are guarenteed to lead to numerous problems.
    And for those who believe gay marriage ruins the "sanctity" of marriage-I point thee to Britney Spears and J Lo! :D
     
  6. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    Exactly. Congratulations you've figured it out (and no I'm not being sarcastic).

    James, please tell me what concept it dumber than free love. I'm dying to know.

    -Kate
     
  7. Evie Snatch

    Evie Snatch Member

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    sorry, strawberry, i agree with james. saying there's nothing dumber than free love is pretty harsh. of course that's it-- free love IS the excuse to make love to many women and never speak to them again, but it's also the excuse for women to make love to many men and never speak to them again.

    i mean, if it's something you're not into, then by all means, abstain. even i'm not really intent on persuing free love, but i think someone needs to point out that it's all in perspective: to put it in terms i'm not fond of... use and be used? if you're recieving as well as giving, it's okay? at least in my own mind i guess.

    as far as marriage... i've really never seen a marriage last. the only old couples i know who are still together and happy past 60 were never married. it seems pretty preposterous to me... why bother with a legal ceremony when the love is all that matters?
     
  8. Evie Snatch

    Evie Snatch Member

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    hm... //edit:
    free love also applies to woman-woman and man-man relationships.

    and, i wholeheartedly believe gay couples have as much a right to marriage as hetero couples. i just don't really see why either would want to persue it at all, really.
     
  9. LillyWhite03

    LillyWhite03 Member

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    Marriage is a sacred ritual and commitment. It shouldn't be about the money. My husband and I just paid for the license and got married in a beautiful place free of charge. To us it was about taking an oath to be committed to eachother forever. To many times people get married thinking it is all about the dress and the flowers and the food. What about after that? Are you in it for life or just till the boredom sets in of looking at the same person forever? I think finding that one person is an amazing feeling, and worth hanging on too. Knowing you are with the one person who loves you as much as you love them is incredible. You don't spend time wondering if maybe it was someone else...you just know :)
     
  10. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    Okay, so in your mind, if I killed your mother, you'd be okay with it as long as you got to kill my mother? :confused: Besides, I wouldn't honestly have a problem with free love if the person doing it has gone through surgical sterilization. Unfortunately in this world, your actions DO effect the lives of other people. Even if you use condoms, no means of birth control is 100% effective. That means that all too often, (even in cases where free love isn't practiced) innocent kids are brought into this world not knowing who their father is, and that is what makes it wrong. Saying that it's fair because women can use men is rediculous: Men and women are biologically different, to the point where when a woman has sexual intercourse with a guy (assuming she isn't raped) her body releases hormones that make her emotionally attatched to the owner of the penis inside her. Any woman who can honestly say she has sex with random men and enjoys it has either been through some sexual trauma in her life or she has done some form of emotional self-training. Men, on the other hand, can often (but not always...there are some nice ones out there) have sex with random women and not care less because that's just the way they are. There was a huge thread about free love a while back. I can give you the link if you want 'cause I don't feel like repeating myself eight times again.
     
  11. moonlightdelerium

    moonlightdelerium Senior Member

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    The problem is people don't realize that marriage and weddings are not the same thing. My parents got married in a lawyers office for 100$ and are going to be going on their 20th year anniversary. They love eachother very much and are still content with one another where as many of the couples they know who spent ridiculous amounts of money on the wedding split only a couple of years later. You don't have to get married but I think its probably smart if you're planning on having children because in the end its less expensive. Ultimately all that really counts is the love.
     
  12. mauricelcassidy

    mauricelcassidy Member

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    First off. i find this comment very sexest and rather offensive. next, i think you are wrong. women can with no problem have fun and have sex with little emotional attatchment to their partner. and lastly your saying that women have no emotional attatchment to their partners until they have sex. this makes no sense. women are not just machines that go around having sex until they find someone they like.

    on the concept of marriage. im a little scared by it but i believe that it is a sacred commitment. too many people nowadays marry for financial and social reasons though and i believe it is abused

    peace bob
     
  13. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    First of all, I think marriage is tupid. It's just a way for the establishment to gain more control over us. They can keep track of who sleeps with who! Cool dude!

    Second, free love is fine. Women and men can enjoy it equally. There are two kinds of love, which people usually fail to realize - emotional love, and physical love. Emotional love should probably be restricted to a certain partner. Physical love, on the other hand, is just basically for two people to have a good time and get off. That's fine in my book, but by all means you are entitled to your opinion. It's all cool. To each his her own path.
     
  14. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    freedom or death ....slaves are knaves ....kill... eat ...fuck... die !!
     
  15. meishka

    meishka Grease Munky

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    i believe in marriage. be it between a man and a womanor two men or two women. love conquors all in a way
     
  16. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    Nalencer--There already is a name for physical love: It's called LUST and it's not the same thing.


    First off, your putting words in my mouth. I never said all men are whores who don't have any feelings. I said that biologically it is easier for a man to have sex with no emotional attatchment than it is for a woman. As for women, when did I say that they didn't feel any emotional attatchment until sex? I said the bond increases at that moment, I never said it necessarily started at that moment. I also never said that women CAN'T have sex without emotional feelings, I just said that most of them have had to control their real feelings at some point in their life before they can do that type of thing. From a biological and instinctual standpoint, free sex (because we need to stop kidding ourselves, it's not love) makes no sense at all. Instinctually, it's not like men are in short supply and we need to hump everything in sight in order to continue the species. The females of most species are programed to be selective about their mates.

    Biology aside, if you look at it from a LOGICAL prospective, it makes no sense. With all the rates of HIV/AIDS, gonnorhea, chlamydia, syphalis, genital warts, genital herpes, and crabs going around, you'd think that humans would get it through their think heads (and condoms do not protect against ALL forms of STDs). But hey, if you practice free sex and want to risk yourself, go ahead. Perhaps the gene pool will be filtered out a bit more. Just don't reproduce and bring an innocent child into the mess. And by the way, in case no one has told you, vagina's are a priveledge, not a right.
     
  17. ms_charisma

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    I don't believe in god and i dont really see the point in gettting married as i think of it more as a religious act than anything else.

    IF i get married, (not by a priest) i'll get married when im at least 30, because i dont believe i can choose someone who i can be with for the rest of my life, when i've hardly lived my life anyway. also if i do get married, it will be more like a party than a ceremony, to celebrate us,

    Thats what i think

    Love Amanda
     
  18. kitty fabulous

    kitty fabulous smoked tofu

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    i'm on my second marriage. i've tried really hard, but i just don't think it works for me.

    i'm all for free love, as long as the guy wears his "raincoat", and isn't an asshole. which kind of narrows it down a bit. hell, i could use a little free love lately.

    i think people who preach & judge others for their sexuality should never be allowed to have sex again.
     
  19. cbrmale

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    I believe in free love until you meet someone who is extra extra special. Once you meet that person, marriage is a committment to spend the rest of your life with someone special.
     
  20. cbrmale

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    Marriage in Australia is a legal institution, not a religious one. So you can get married whichever way you like. I like the idea of your party. All you need is a celebrant and it's done.

    Don't rule anything in or out. Similarly, don't how old your going to be on it, because when you meet someone special, everything changes.

    I got married at 27. That was a good age. My wife was 25.
     

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