So some times I get thinking and onetime i thought of something that could be true... Wat if life isn't really life..but a dream.. liek in the "real" life your in a coma or died as a baby or something?.. aha this subject makes me go litteraly crazy!!!! Arg.. has anyone ever thoguht about this b4?
yeah man, i think about that kind of thing alot. it used to scare me alot, reality is a really confusing topic and the "answers" always have the potential of being frightening... but instead of looking at it in a fearful way now, im really intrigued by it...reality is the senses. so whenever you are experiencing your senses...that is what's real for you. but yea if u wanna discuss and get all philosophical id love to!
yeah man! filosofy was my favorite subject at school!!! i wanted to study that at the university... but i get litterly psycotic with filosofy. so in therapy ive learned not to think so much no more
haha yea me too! like i lose touch with everything...one of my therapists actually described it as a drugless "trip"...weird huh? it makes you feel like ur crazy, but u arent there are many like us, we are just thinkers! endless possibilities. and YAY DESCARTES! to whoever it was that posted that quote earlier
wow .. yea.. just a few days ago i was having a pretty bad drug-free trip... i acutally posted about it in random thoughts lol... didnt get any helpful or constructive replies. this is much better. i thought i was on the brink of insanity. i was totally aware of my reality being entirely inside my mind like i never have been before. i felt like i was layers inside of my skin and that i was watching my reality like i would watch a movie... interpreting a story and signals but behind a screen. any time i was alone without any distractions, i'd become terrified that my mind might snap because of all these realizations and i'd start hallucinating and, basically, become schizophrenic. the fact that i could see imprints of lighter objects on dark walls in dark rooms "trail" when i shifted my eyes helped it along (btw, everyone does that, i was just hyperfocusing on it). the worst thing was that there was/is no telling myself that it's impossable or that if i saw something that wasn't there, it'd be ok because it's not really there. because everything is in your mind. somewhere in my head i know exactly what terrifies me and if i decide, in the back of my mind somewhere, to hallucinate that thing as if it were real, i'd be screwed... if you suddenly see some shadowperson with no face charge at you out of the darkness like it's real, it's going to be fucking scarry as hell and paranoid thoughts of causing phycological damage or something bubble up... fun fact that i'm sure most generally know: you never actually sense something in the way that you think you are sensing it: "When my hand touches the wall, there is a point at which one cannot say whether a particular atom belongs to the wall, or to my hand. When my hand is not touching the wall, there is a point at which one cannot say whether a particular atom belongs to my hand, or the air around it. The illusion of solidity and stability is just that, an illusion created by the limits of our senses. Further, we do not see the wall, touch the wall, or smell the wall; our seeing, touching, and smelling is an interaction between atoms and energy. The light waves we see are in our eyes, not the thing seen; the molecules we smell are in our nose, not the thing smelled. Our sight tells us something about a thing which is not seen, and our smell tells us something about a thing which is not smelled; but they are not those things." here and here i used to think that all this was very interesting and insightful to my picture of reality... i dont know what happend. people say it's all a part of the cosmic joke. so far it continues to be a bit too depressing for me (people so detatched from what is really happening and what would really matter if we could perceive it all). i hear that once you get past that, and can just laugh, it's wonderful.
perhaps (maybe, I don’t really know for certain, just an idea here) what happened is that some part of you is realizing another aspect of the cosmic joke, one that, to me, really strikes at the heart of it and always seems to come up when we are talking about our senses and perceptions. Let me explain. Like ones hand on the wall, the tools we have used to gather this new information which senses (supposedly) more than our senses can, but ultimately it is a human that takes a reading of the reading the tool has made; this reading is of course made with the regular or original senses. Now our new tools told us are senses were deceiving us (the illusion of the solidity of a matter for example) but not only have we ultimately taken our reading from the tool with our original senses, but that tool was conceived, designed, and created using the principles and ideas gathered and generated from information taken in from those original senses. What I’m saying is though these tools seem to have given us a new perspective the tool and therefore the prospective is ultimately based on the senses the tool is now telling us were deceiving us. If we have ruled that our senses were deceiving us how do we know during the creation, construction and/or conceptualization of that tool our senses were not deceiving us all along the way? In which case that tool is flawed and may be deceiving us to a greater or lesser degree than our original senses were. In which case the illusion of the solidity of matter can equally be considered an illusion, in which case the solidity of matter may be no illusion after all.
