do the 2c's dilate pupils?

I mean is there something on a 1/4 tab that's not lsd but feel kinda like it but pupils don't get big like black saucers?

Just curious...Thanks!

 

If it was on blotter it could have been a DOx chem though if it is you will probably trip for up to 14 hours.

 

but do pupils dilate big?

 

my pupils are big on 2ce

 

both 2C-E and 2C-B cause significant pupil dilation for me.

however, doses for both are at least about 20mg for a decent effect, far too large to fit on 1/4 tab

2C-B does not feel much like LSD. 2C-E feels significantly like LSD but with some substantial differences.

 

Every psychedelic I have ever heard of causes pupil dilation.
If there is one out there that doesn't please illuminate me as well.

 

There aren't any research chemicals that are potent enough to be active on a 1/4 x 1/4 blotter, unless of course that blotter paper is abnormally thick or a tad bit bigger lol. And all the research chemicals I've encountered as of yet definitely enlarge the pupils. 2C-E in some cases didn't do anything to my eyes, however I was doing that every 2-3 days at the time, so.. that may be why lol.

 

all hallucinogens that i know of cause pupil dilation.

 

I am pretty sure the psychedelic amphetamines (DOM, DOB, DOI) are able to be used on blotter. Am I wrong? Please enlighten me.

 

Definately, but I think they are usually a little bigger than your average LSD blotter. It would be hard to fit a couple of mg on a 1/4 of a blotter, I would think.

 

Yes they fit on blotter but those blotters are typically reported as much bigger.

 

I've dosed with a couple of the DOx's on blotters. I thought they were LSD before I put them in my mouth, but they were extremely bitter, then I ended up tripping for 15 hours for one trip 30+ hours for another. lol

Was it bitter, kine?

 

not bitter at all. 1/4 inch tabs. But my pupils were not big. Maybe weak acid? Trip lasted about 7-8 hours. Felt like acid.

 

i've heard that you can taste the chemical with DOB blotter.

2c-x's don't dilate my pupils as much as tryptamines do.

 

It was probably just some weak acid then. If it was anything else, it would likely have some sort of taste to it.

 

5-meo-amt, bromo-dragonfly, DOX.

 

Also not all bitter LSD is really DOX, as I am sure anyone who has had European blotters (hoffman on a bike being the most famous example) can attest. For a long time people were arguing it wasn't really LSD but rather was LSM (an LSD analog) due to the sometimes different effect profile versus USA festival circuit acid (which I can attest to, they feel quite different in my opinion) and also its bitter taste. But just in case anyone wondered, some people got some it tested at a lab and it was confirmed to be ~70% LSD ~%30 other stuff, I am guessing primarily iso-lsd. The bitter taste with those blots comes from the paper being chlorine free during its processing, which I am told is done because it slows degradation significantly. I am guessing the different effect profile is due to two reasons, the first being the American LSD is likely higher purity (I hear ~90% for high end cid), and the second being that the American LSD is honestly dosed (100ug is probably sold as 100ug, where as a lot of the doses coming from europe the dose is doubled, so sold as "250ug" is 125 ug of 70% pure LSD, and then you take really 250 ug of 90% USA LSD and are blown away)

So if it is bitter it is a spitter.....or its on chlorine free paper so your dose doesn't degrade when it is laid.

 

I think some heavy inks and dyes on the blotter might be bitter.

 

yeah bromo's active in about 500-1mg though, so perhaps a tad bit bigger but yeah I could definitely see somebody throwing that on a 1/4. But you'd know if it was Bromo, it lasts for 2-3 days.

5-meo and DOX are mg compounds so I don't believe a regular 1/4 could hold it. It would be thicker. But, i'm sure it wouldn't be unheard of for somebody to just throw DOX and 5-meo on regular blotter paper and just sell it through larger chunks. Hopefully those kinda people don't claim it's acid, but usually the taste says enough.

 

i think they might be able to be...but who knows.