DMT salts

dynamickid · Feb 27, 2009

Has anyone had experience with a salt form of DMT? If so, what type of experience did you have with it insufflated? I am just trying to see whether or not it would be worth the time to convert base back into salt?

peacegrow · Mar 11, 2009

I've heard of people converting the freebase to salts using fermic acid or something. I would be interested, but it seemed too complicated for me.
I think work though. It might have been on mycotopia or something that I read about it.

36fuckin5 · Mar 11, 2009

Search "Fumaric Acid Saturated Acetone"

pedaltopedal · Mar 11, 2009

Ignore this one

pedaltopedal · Mar 11, 2009

Check out this thread at dmt nexus:

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=36654

Especially this post:

Using DMT fumarate as snuff is very wasteful. No one claimed it wasn’t.

The fumarate is good for 4 things:

1) Long term storage of DMT. Freebase DMT easily degrades, while DMT fumarate is said to be extremely stable. Fumarates are some of the most stable salts around.

2) Oral use with an MAOI. It absorbs better and faster than freebase DMT giving more bang for your buck in pharmahuasca. It can be easily stored for a long time in capsules without refrigeration. It’s perfect for oral use. Freebase DMT in capsules will not last very long unless refrigerated.

3) Insufflation for those who can’t stand the burn of snorted freebase DMT. It is MUCH WORSE than the burn from DMT fumarate. DMT is rather weak by this route unless snorted with an MAOI. This is a wasteful way to use DMT, but some people prefer it.

4) For injection. DMT fumarate is the only form approved by the FDA for injection.

The main reason SWIM is interested in DMT fumarate is because it's a salt and salts are more stable than freebase compounds. If you have a ton of DMT sitting around, it’s best to convert it to the fumarate and store it that way. Then freebase a small batch when you want to use it (unless you use it orally). Fumaric acid should protect the molecule very well. Other acids will also, but they all pretty much form a sticky goo that is hard to deal with. SWIM prefers a powder he can easily handle and it seems only the fumarate and the freebase are powders, while all the others are goo.
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dynamickid · Mar 12, 2009

thanks pedal. I have all the right products, just wanted to know if anyone has used the methods above?

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