DMT extraction- Other chemicals

Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by 25dimethoxy, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. 25dimethoxy

    25dimethoxy Member

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    Can naptha be swapped for xylene?
    Xylene is much cheaper to buy in bulk.
     
  2. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Any np (non-polar) solvent should work (in theory). In practice, i have successfully pulled DMT using the following:

    naptha, heptane, xylene, toluene & d-limonene.

    Xylene STINKS the worst IMHO. Multiple fans, multiple windows, towels under doors, and it still smells like an explosion waiting to happen.

    Next Toluene for bad fumes no matter what, then heptane, then naptha & finally d-limo.

    In terms of efficiency of pull:

    For very clean, white freebase, heptane works great and naptha is very good too.

    For waxy full spectrum, jungle spice, toluene works great and xylene is very good too.

    For gooey full spectrum, food grade solvent jungle spice, d-limo is the way to go.
     
  3. 25dimethoxy

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    What do you mean by a waxy jungke spice lol?
     
  4. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    In an old Entheogen Review, a famous psychonaut named Entropymancer wrote a now-famous article on the topic of "jungle spice."

    Spice is a slang term for N,N, DMT, referring to the Frank Herbert novel, "Dune." Highly recommended reading for DMT psychonauts btw . . .

    i do not know who coined the term "jungle spice" but it is a full-spectrum pull from the mimosa marc (aka mud). This means you get ALL the alkaloids and i believe a few extra plant oils too, but i may be mistaken. For a number of years there was speculations as to what these alkaloids were. i am unsure if this has been settled. The majority are just additional DMT and DMT-oxide.

    Anyway, these pulls yield a tray full of solvent that CANNOT be freeze precipitated (only works with naptha and heptane), so one must put them under a fan and wait for all the solvent to evaporate. When one does this with Toluene or Xylene what one gets after drying it, quite literally, FOR WEEKS, are the fans of crystals that look like sea anemones and are yellow/orange/red/brown in color and thick and waxy in texture/appearance.

    By the mg, jungle spice is a bit more potent then DMT. If i'm breaking through on 40mgs of DMT in my vaporgenie, i would expect similar effects from 30 mgs of jungle.
     
  5. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Have you tried or considered perhaps using a low vacuum to drop the vaporization temperature?
     
  6. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Beyond my skillset, budget or setup range right now. Sounds interesting in a kind of confusing way . . . drop vaporization temperature? That doesn't sound right. DMT is DMT and it will melt and when more heat is added boil/vaporize at the same temperatures regardless of environment, . . . right?
     
  7. 25dimethoxy

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    I think he means in a vacuum xylene will dry off alot quicker.

    Xylene seems the best chemical in my eyes due to the price of it.
     
  8. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Exactly.

    Auto Zone has a handheld Vac pump which could help for about $30

    Find a large mouth jar, make up a lid with a couple barbed hose fittings hooked to it,

    Run one to a petcock valve and the other to the pump.

    Place your raw extract in a glass in the center of the jar and close the lid

    Get a good vacuum going and let it set for a little bit while the Solvent vaporizes OR chill the outside of the jar to re-condense the solvent on the walls of the jar and away from your remaining extract in the glass. :cheers2:

    Some benefits,

    Nowhere near as much noxious vapors escaping

    Reclamation of your solvent, makes Naptha a bit more affordable eh?
     
  9. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Intriguing . . . the naptha is clean enough to reuse when this procedure is used?
     
  10. 25dimethoxy

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    Definately makes naptha worth considering.

    Can Xylene or naptha be used instead of petrloeum ether in extracion of LSA, i know it can be used for mescaline as it worked for me.

    If xylene does work for LSA aswell it seems a very viable chemical to buy more of.
     
  11. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    I'm sure it would eventually become saturated but then a low temperature distillation of the solvent should solve that problem eh'?

    Even the low temperature derived from something like a fish tank heater would provide enough BTU's to speed the evaporation of the Solvent, maybe only reclaim 70 or 80% as is done with other "Spirits" and use the rest to fuel your camp stove or Bonfire starter.

    Come to think of it, passing the vapors or the distillate through an activated carbon filter couldn't hurt things any. Or a bed of some catalyst to reduce the oxides
     
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