Did Affirmative Action Come Too Soon?

Some people point out that there is no need for AA because various anti-discrimination laws had already been passed in the 60's to deal with discrimination,so let the laws handle discrimination.

As some may know or may not know, it was Ricahard Nixon who put AA into practice in the early 70's. So I'am wondering since these anti-discrimiantion laws were just passed in the 60's,maybe Nixon didn't give these laws enough time to see what effect they would have on dealing with college entrance and work-place discrimiantion. Maybe he should have waited to see what happened,then if discrimination was still an obvious problem,then put in place an affirmintaive action program. Had Nixion or an later president put in place AA only after it was apparent that college entrance and work-place discrimiantion were still the problems they were before these anti-discrimination laws were passed, then it would have made it clearer to AA opponents just how needed affirmative action was back then.

 

AA is the most corrupt and racist thing i can imagine. Giving underqualified people priority over more qualified people based solely on race. I'd rather segregation thatn AA.

 

So your saying all AA cases involve underqualifieds getting jobs they shouldnt be getting because some white person should??
And how is that you somehow Know when they are underqualified or not?
are just making basic assumptions or does the employer tell you "Youve been replaced by an underqualified minority, heres your two weeks"

Im just trying to understand some things about AA

 

AA is as fucked up as it gets.

It's no different than the insttutionalized racsim in the south of 60 years ago.

If two equally qualified applicants apply for the same job/contract, the not-a-white male gets it automatically.

And if, god forbid, the white guy is the most qualified- you can't hire him unless you have the politically correct number of non-whites and non-males.

Well, I'm a white guy and I never discriminated against anybody.
My experience with racial and/or sexual discrimination has been strictly on the recieving end.

Supporters of AA don't care about equality- they just want the chance to kick white guys around.

 

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It erks me that AA basically says "well minorities aren't smart enough to get it on there own, let's give them a hand.".

 

Well I don't think work-place affirmative action requires that un-qualified or non-smart people must to be hired over qualified people. Also,lets not equate college educated minorites and women with being "un-qualified". Surely their college degree made them qualified.

 

That's why I originally asked if affirmative action was put in place too soon?

The 1964 Civil Rights Act out-lawed job discrimination based on race and gender. Maybe there should have been more time for the effects of this law to "kick-in",and if after a number of years job discrimination based on race and gender was still an obvious or significant problem then I think more people would have seen the need for some sort AA programs to make up for the discrimiantion that's still being practiced.

 

I never said that.

All things being equal, the white man is DISqualified when in competition with a "minority" canidate. He is denied the job based on his race.

And that's discrimination, in any color.

 

To those opposed to AA in the work-place. What would you recommend as a better way to prevent and deal with job discrimination?

If you just say hire and promote according to merit,then how would you make sure that actually happens?

 

you gotta remember that most people here are white and have never encountered racism like minorities do. get fucked with for being a different color and it changes your views a little bit

 

In this day and age merit would be enough because producivity=profit. And whoever is the most productive will get the job.

 

level the starting line don't skew the finish line because the starting line was fucked up years ago

put more money into minority schools, get better teachers, level the playing field...

 

Like other people here have said. AA only promotes racism.

 

The examples of white people not getting jobs because of their race has been feeeewwwww and ffaaaarrrr between. Yet people of other races still face extreme prejudice when it comes to employment, and yes, have been denied jobs because of the color of their skin-even in places that have "official" Affirmative Action policies. Hearing white heterosexual men talking about people being discriminatory against them honestly makes me laugh.

 

they say affirmative action is supposed to make people more equal, but it is the most blatently rascist thing that i have ever encountered in life i fucking hate affirmative action, it is all a load of bullshit.....

if we are all equal, then we all have the same brain capacity and the same chance to get into college and good jobs....it's not fair to take a spot at a college and give it to somebody that has not worked as hard as somebody else just because of their race.....nothing in this world pisses me off more than affirmative action

 

are you white?

 

what does my race have to do with anything?

my comment is the truth, no race has a certain higher brain capacity than another so it's not fair for others that work harder to be aced out of a college spot because somebody with a lower GPA or lower SAT scores is a minority

 

Been there-done that.

!0% white when I lived in Puerto Rico.

My dad was a federal employee who was past over many times in favor of a less experienced minority canidates. They didn't even bother to lie about it.
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Exactly how is discriminating against me "leveling the playing field"?

None of my ancestors lived in america- why should I pay for something some one else did to some one else? I haven't even the vaugest connection to ethier party.

All AA does is force me to choose sides- and I resent the crap out of it.

There are laws against discrimination- is it alright to punish me because some other white guy breaks a law?

AA is institutionalized discrimination. Period.

You can't justify it any more than the klan can justify it's postion.

 

One is too many.

Or is it ok to discriminate against blacks- as long as it's "feeeewwwww and ffaaaarrrr between" ?

Racism is racism- and AA is a racist cause.